RADICAL RESILIENCY With Rachel Rose

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Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly

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Show. Oh, I got a good one. today. We're heading into fall.

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There's a lot going on in this world. But you know what? You

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have to bring people on that just lift you up. And today, my

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guest is Rachel rose. Rachel, how are you? I'm amazing. Thank

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you for having me. I'm so thrilled from sunny California.

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We need the sunshine more than ever. And oh, wait, do you hear

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Rachel's story? Oh, my God, you will not believe it. So I'm

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going to tell you a little bit about her. And she is Rachel

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Rose is a keynote speaker, mental fitness consultant and a

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positive intelligent coach guiding individual clients,

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teams and organisations through neuroscience based coaching that

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impact performance, mental health, wellness and

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relationships. As she said before in the green room, it's

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all about the mindset. So her infectious positivity led her to

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become a motivational TEDx speaker. She has a book coming

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out. We're going to chat about that. Coming out this December

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hopefully, if timing works, right. And Rachel grew up in the

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burbs of Detroit, Michigan, where I am here sitting at right

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now. So I'm at the home girl, and I'm here I'm back back here

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in the in the hood. And she's studied art and in the fashion

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business. And then we're going to take her through her journey

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of moving to from Detroit to New York to Chicago to LA. And then

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we've got a big Gotcha. Okay, she had a near fatal

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snowboarding accident. And oh, my God, did she have to overcome

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so much? And this is what this show is about. It's about

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overcoming and inspiration and motivation. And we're gonna get

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into that as well. And I consider us both Humpty Dumpty.

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Were both a work in progress. Right? We're trying to put them

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back together again, we have so much, you know, we're aligned

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that way. Right? Right. And so she will actually offer some

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five steps towards radical resiliency. And she'll show you

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how meeting challenges head on and all these setbacks, okay.

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are really gifts to be able to power through and be calm and

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find your purpose and become your authentic self. Rachel, I

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am just so happy. We met a while ago. And we have a shared

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friend. Let's shout out Maggie cook. Right? What's up Maggie

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And she's amazing. And I just want you to share with the group

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something that they might not know about. Yeah. If you're

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willing to share.

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Oh, well, probably that I box. You box like you got

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oh, look that she's got a bag a heavy bag.

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Oh, you're a toughy don't mess with Rachel.

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She's got she's boxing. So that's how you keep fit. And

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that's part of your workout. Oh, you're

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And from the time I was 11, I just felt like I

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needed to be somewhere else. My father invited me on a trip to

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New York. And the second we landed before we got off the

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plane. I looked at him and I said, I'm gonna live here one

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day, I it was so crazy. It was like I landed and I felt like I

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was home. And I did 18 years later, not even 10 years after

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that. So good memories from Motown.

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So let's, let's dig in a little deeper. So

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fitting in, in the in the suburbs of Detroit. So just talk

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to talk a little bit about that, because that's part of how you

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know what shaped you and and wanted you to go to New York and

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pursue fashion and all that sort of stuff. So talk about that a

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little bit.

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Yeah, just my dad ran one of the hottest fashion

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stores in downtown Birmingham. And so I think that was my

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invitation to fashion. I had a lot of art around me, my aunt

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was at Cranbrook and my parents were artistic musically and, and

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in the art world, but I just I always I just felt like I didn't

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belong I wanted I wanted to be more of an individual and I

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think I felt extreme pressure to fit in. More so than being able

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to be who I wanted to be in every way, you know, by you

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know, the way that I was raised and just living in the suburbs

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of Detroit and and once I got to New York and everybody was kind

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of had their blinders on and they were sort of in their own

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lane and not really focused on what everybody else was doing

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and I just I connected With that I connected with just like being

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me in this big, amazing place of everyone doing different things

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and just individual and crazy. And it just felt less judgement

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and it felt like home.

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Yeah, so you start to find yourself, and really

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where your true happiness was coming from was art in fashion

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in New York. And it's a big city that, you know, a lot of people,

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that's a challenging city, but you embraced it. And it just,

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it's sort of you grew, you grew from being in New York,

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no question, no question. You know, and even in

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Detroit, find, like finding those places in those outlets,

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like going to, you know, eight mile and I went to centre for

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Creative Studies for a minute down in Detroit way before they

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were rebuilding it. I mean, a security guard would, you know,

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pick us up at our car and walk us to the front door covered

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with barbed wire? So, you know, so it just, it was a more direct

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route, I think once I got to the, to the big city in New

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York.

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Right. And so then you're single, I imagine

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enjoying everything New York is giving to you, right? And what

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are some of the cool things that you remember about New York?

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New York was just it was it around every corner?

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Something else amazing. I went, I went to fashion school, I

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lived in Spanish Harlem, you know, love taking the subway

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asked her asked her Barber was like a really big thing back

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then, where people were shaving their heads and punk rock and

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alternative music. And I mean, so many things were happening

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then that they're, they're not even around, but they set the

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stage. And then I was a costume designer for a high school and

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the night we were doing Play It Again, Sam, I walked out of my

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apartment to take the train to rockville centre. And who was

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standing on the street. Woody Allen. And he literally I mean,

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we lit he walked me all the way to the train. I said we're

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literally doing played against them tonight. So that was

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amazing. And I served hot chicken wings to Brian Gumbel.

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And I showed David Spade his first apartment in Jersey City

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before he was famous. And I and my apartment was getting broken

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into and I was waiting tables and I got to be really good

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friends with the guardian angels and crazy crazy, like another

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lifetime, but definitely a capsule in time. That was

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amazing. And, and a lot of things grew out of that.

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You came out of your shell, right? Yeah, you

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really grew.

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I you know what, whatever came, I was waiting

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tables. I was going to fashion school. I was doing art shows

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and making paintings for people. And it just it was there.

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Whatever was happening. I did it. I just wanted to take

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advantage of all of it. I actually yeah.

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And so Okay, now. Now I think then you're going

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next is Chicago. And this is sort of that's the mom phase,

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would you call it? You got married and had kids? Right?

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Yeah, but not initially, initially, it was 10

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years in New York. And I felt like my art and fashion couldn't

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support my art and fashion came out to California that might

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have been when you were here, Howard. And it just it was so

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much of an extreme after being in New York. It didn't resonate

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back then. And my dad invited me to Chicago, he had moved there.

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And I went to go stay with him. And I loved it. It felt like you

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know enough of a city but with the with the Midwest, and I

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loved it. And then and then my high fashion background was not

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connecting with the Midwest. And so I finally landed the line of

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speedo, if you know Speedo swim trunks. And then I said this is

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not fashion anymore. And I actually found a job in

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financing and that that was a whole nother experience amazing.

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I did all the restaurants bars and nightclubs in Chicago and

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was was grateful earn earn ended up running the office and

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becoming a VP and with my art and fashion background, so don't

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let anyone tell you what you're capable of. And that was

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amazing. And that was a whole nother a whole nother chapter

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and then in that job was Len I met the Cisco rep when I was

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financing all the restaurants, he was selling all the food. And

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that was where, you know, that was the next chapter of being a

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mom.

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Okay, and so you end up having three kids, right?

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Three kids. I was the breadwinner. So I wasn't I

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wasn't a stay at home mom, but I was a mom and ran the fashion

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company. And then yeah, I mean, they're my greatest gifts. Of

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course.

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That's it's amazing. All right. So now this

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is, this is the tough part. So this is really where you

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actually had a near fatal snowboarding accident. So step

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us through kind of what happened and kind of, you know, as much

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as you can want to share, because I know they get the book

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coming out. But share with us a little bit about that tragic

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moment here that you faced.

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So I became a single mom, and decided I was

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going to learn how to snowboard and medicine aboard boyfriend

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and went snowboarding for five days, was in good conditions in

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Chicago. So actually went to Boyne. And it was a sheet of

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ice, and I'm very stubborn. And at the end of the long weekend,

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I fell 500 times but I had a helmet on. And I came back to

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Chicago to mom and running the finance company. And one day I

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got downtown and didn't know how I was there. How I ended up down

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there. And only so my mom would feel better. Did I grab my

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youngest get a CAT scan? And the doctor came out within 45

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seconds and said, Do you have someone that can pick your son

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up, please find him a ride home, kiss him goodbye. You're

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bleeding front to back. And we need your will. And we have an

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ambulance downstairs to take you in the trunk to the trauma

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centre. But this looks like it's going to be fatal.

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So you had suffered some type of concussion

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and brain bleeding.

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, it was a subdural hematoma was a traumatic brain

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injury. And it was you know what Bob Saget and Natasha

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Richardson. And if you saw the movie concussion, all the 12

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Pittsburgh Steelers, so

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most people don't survive. And so I'm so grateful. But I knew I

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wasn't done when he told me that. But it wasn't for a few

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days later, that I was still in ICU and, and, you know, realised

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that I was still alive and still and still present. And that was

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when the doctors wanted to follow the protocol, like in the

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movie. And the outcome in concussion of all the players

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was they all had committed suicide. And when I wasn't

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amenable, they sort of let me go and say, and said, we can't help

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you. And I found an angel, more holistic neurologist, about six

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months later, maybe a little bit less. And he he got me back

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where I needed to be and,

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and got me strong, and we made a goal and and then I made a goal

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to do a TED talk. And we as I was relearning everything I hear

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I am and when we interviewed, that when we were being

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interviewed, they asked how is it that we were able to you

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know, have this outcome and he said it was 100% mindset. So

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that was that was incredible to me because I know a positive

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outlook is always going to get us a more positive outcome but I

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wasn't expecting it to impact health as much as it as it as it

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did.

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So you had to work hard to kind of get your short

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and long term memory back get your stamina back, you know, get

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your mental and emotional well being as well as your physical

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well being back right. How long did that how long did that take?

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Wow, it's I would say it's an ongoing process. I know you you

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understand and can relate. But initially it was about 18

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months. Okay to get back to you know, I I have videos of people

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teaching me how to use a calendar and the computer and

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but

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I was I was blessed to find this to be connected to

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this. My angel Dr. And really helped me and continue a

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continues to every time there's a new

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Do something to try. He puts it out there. And definitely, you

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know, moving again, was a big part of, of the growth in the

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process.

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So this time you decided to do the healing in the

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warm weather in LA.

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Yeah, it wasn't about the healing and the warm

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weather. I mean, definitely the sunshine, it was more, I always

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sort of thought I'd end up here again. But it was more something

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I did for the time it for my son, sometimes we do things for

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our kids that we wouldn't necessarily do for ourselves.

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And he was feeling the same way I did growing up in the north

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shore of Chicago, when I left Detroit, he was feeling like he

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needed to kind of get out there and, and be who he needed to be.

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So that was why we initially came out here, everybody was

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against it, except for my neurologist. And what will could

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benefit everybody is that when you put yourself another reason

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to get uncomfortable, when you put yourself in uncomfortable

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position situations, and you do things that you're not used to

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doing, you actually, you actually gain more

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neurotransmitters and you can increase your your brain

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activity to another level by just even eating something

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different for breakfast, going a different way to work sleeping

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on the opposite side of the bed. So he said he was the only

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person that could have told me not to go. And he said you need

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to go because you're going to get as close to 99% as you can,

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by putting yourself in this situation. And he was it was he

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was right.

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Right. So now you're basically you know, as

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you said, it's kind of starting over. Right? You're getting a

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chance, I always call it, you know, putting Humpty Dumpty back

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together again, version two or three Oh, now for me. So you're

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now you know, out there. So you you set a goal to actually tell

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your story on the TEDx stage? Correct.

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That was the original plan. That wasn't the

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ultimate talk. But that was the original play on Yes.

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Congratulations, though, it's still a beautiful accomplishment

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as well. And tell me about a little bit, you're excited,

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you're almost coming down the finish line of having to be a

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published author and have a book coming out, right? Yes, yes,

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it's taken a couple years of, you know, getting getting over

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everything mentally, physically, emotionally. And this was a big

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project. And I'm super excited because I, I finally feel like I

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have the clarity to go forward and really make an impact and

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hopefully show others what's possible and, and give them

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hope, whatever situation or circumstance they're going

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through, so that, you know, you have to get to the other side,

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right to be able to see had the hindsight and let your hindsight

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be someone else's foresight and hopefully, inspiration to keep

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going and not give up. That's why That's why the snowboard

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with the Big B is so always in in my in my vision somewhere so

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that I can be reminded of the blessings and the lessons.

Rachel Rose: 00:18:24

Absolutely the blessings for sure. And so now you've gone

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through a little bit of a training and so mental fitness

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consultant, Positive Intelligence coach, tell my

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audience what that involves. That was amazing. It was

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something that I was gifted. And it I took it on thinking of

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anything positive is good, right? And it came from, from

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Stanford, so no one's gonna say no to that. And I went through

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some more set additional obstacles over the past eight

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months. And that's when it came into my life. And it was so

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profoundly impactful. And it kind of followed the same steps

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and supported my radical resilience programme. And it's

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about tapping in to the positive side of your brain, and actually

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being able to see gifts and opportunities and possibilities

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from any set of circumstances. We, we all have a judge, right?

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And a negative voice inside of us that's, you know, driving us,

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and it's amazing. You can actually train your brain to see

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come from the right side, with positivity, even enough that it

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would show up on an MRI, and so many gifts and possibilities

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come out of every single situation.

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That and circumstance that we're going through. And it's training

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your your brain to be able to see the gifts and an

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opportunity.

Howard Brown: 00:20:09

Well, you help help people now to do that from

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personal lived experience, I do too. So I do say that, you know,

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we all get knocked down in life and in family and in business,

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and for you and I in health, and you, you have to appreciate that

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darkness and learn from it, but you can't stay there too long.

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And you have to get back up again, you have to get back up

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again. And you and I are, are perfect examples of getting back

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up again, and trying to rebuild, and to put put things back

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together again, and and it can be done, it can be done. And for

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many people, it's it's very, very difficult. But you and I

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are living examples of doing that so well. And so it's just

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truly a tribute that to be able to do that you've overcome a lot

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and you are an inspiration. And it's truly, truly amazing. So

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what we're going to do now, okay, is we actually are doing

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the shining, brightly spotlight, so you are glowing like crazy. I

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need sunglasses here. And I want people to, you know, know how to

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get a hold of you. And then I'd love for you to share some final

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comments with the audience.

Rachel Rose: 00:21:22

Thank you, yes, I would love to be in touch with

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all of you. And I have a blueprint to share that Howard,

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I'll give you right at wit to reclaim your power and your

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positivity and see all the possibilities. And so the

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website is Rachel Rose live.com. And we can book a call, call

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with Rachael rose.com. And I would love to uncover the gifts

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that lie on whatever on the other side of whatever you're

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going through. And I think something that I would love

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everybody to consider is that and Howard, you're a testament

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to this as well, is that health is not just what we feed our

Howard Brown: 00:22:23

Oh, it's it's really, really important.

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Because, you know, what we've learned is that, that we've

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body, it's what we feed our mind. It's what we say to

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learned actually, that we can be a givers. And that, you know, we

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were helped individually in our own circumstances, I'm so

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ourselves. And it's for sure the people we surround ourselves

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grateful to you know, that our caregivers and the people that

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offered a prayer or helped us out. And now it's a way to take

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with. So I'm grateful for you, Howard, and thank you for

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what we went through and to share with others, and to

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provide some hope, some inspiration

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letting me share.

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that they can actually get get their lives back as well. And

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we've both proven that and truly amazing, truly amazing. I can't

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wait for your book. I'm so excited. You're still working on

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the title, right? You're trying to figure out

Rachel Rose: 00:23:05

Yeah, the radical resilience or the the price of

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perfection, but definitely not not a big book and easy to read,

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and hopefully an opportunity to apply the lessons and the

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blessings in to your own life. And, and again, you know, with

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the inspiration of just positive mindset and, and hope that if we

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can do it, so can you

Howard Brown: 00:23:31

absolutely and make sure that you're you're

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checking out Rachel because she is a motivational speaker. And

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she will come while your your group and be able to, to help so

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many. And it's really just such a pleasure here. So I want to

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thank you all. For me, you reach me at shining brightly.com and

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everything you need to know about hiring me as a

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motivational speaker, or a workshop or a panellist or an

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emcee. Also, my podcast is on there as well as the shining

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brightly book, and it's doing really well. And so please

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contact me. And the world is just in a crazy spot right now.

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But hopefully, this podcast between Rachel and we brought a

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little sunshine to you. And we really appreciate you all and

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thank you again, Rachel for sharing your story, just a

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tidbit of it. And hopefully people will reach out to you and

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we'll make a difference together.

Rachel Rose: 00:24:25

I love it. Thank you, Howard.

Howard Brown: 00:24:27

Thank you. And so just remember, if you shine

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brightly just a little bit each day for yourself, for others in

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our communities, the world will be better place. Thanks for

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listening. keep shining