WHAT IS THE 3G CYCLE OF LIFE? | Dr. Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski

Howard Brown: 00:00:09

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Howard Brown: 00:00:37

Hello, welcome to shining brightly. This is Howard Brown. Oh, we have another exciting episode here today. You're gonna love our guests and find it believable. We have Dr. Z with us here today, Marian cyberlock. And how are you?

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:00:53

I'm doing very well. Thank you so much for having me.

Howard Brown: 00:00:56

Oh my god. So we are going to talk about something called the three G cycle. Okay, the secret of achieving joy, meaning and wellbeing. And it's actually her book. And this is really important stuff. So we're gonna pay attention. This is amazing. I'm going to read the bio here that you gave me and then you'll fill in some fill in the blank. So Dr. Marian zibra. Got Dr. C is a triple board certified internal medicine and Syriac metrics and obesity medicine doctor, she has completed her physician leadership academy FMA fellowship on leadership and development and education and AAMC and has certified as a mental health ally and Wellness Advocate serves as a member of the College of Physicians, ACP, and National Wellness and professional fulfillment committee. This you are well credentialed, my dear. What did I leave out?

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:01:53

I've a little bit of luck, you live out this probably the most important part of my life is that I am a mother of two wonderful boys. I have a wonderful husband, I have my mom and my dad that have been very supportive. And I guess that's a good group of friends that are, you know, here with me and following me and, and cheering up when I have crazy ideas, and I have three.

Howard Brown: 00:02:22

Wow. And you have you have an accent? Where are you from? Originally?

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:02:26

I am from Peru. I am a Latin girl. Even my last name will not show it. So yes, I came to the US just 11 years ago to start from zero.

Howard Brown: 00:02:38

It's an amazing story. And what is something that we don't know about you something interesting, which something interesting that we don't know about.

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:02:46

So probably the reason why I came and the reason why I came to the US is because even I was a successful physician in Peru and everything was going very well. I was single. And I met the love of my life that was actually living in the US. So I came for vacations after dating back and forth for one year. And after he proposed I quit my job via Skype, and I moved permanently to the US. So I have a story of love that justifies my movement.

Howard Brown: 00:03:24

It's beautiful. It's beautiful. And we're friends and I'm friends with your husband, Alex. And it's, it's a beautiful story. It's really inspiring story. So it's great. So give me some of the background here. So you're a physician. And now you're, you know, decide to write a book. So give me some background on that.

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:03:44

So I do remember this, but my dad actually a few weeks ago, remind me about me being 14 or 15 years old and writing and he had someone that was publishing my, my stories in a paper in Peru. So it looked like this was part of my life forever. I just didn't remember several decades ago. So now I am not a surprise I was when COVID came and I was going through very difficult times, not only with my kids being you know, at home 24/7 And seeing people suffering and being far away from my parents that are still in Parowan living live with fear, I believe like everybody else. I got COVID at the beginning of the of the epidemic and I was in my in my room by myself for almost two weeks, and I didn't know what to do to express my you know, my feelings. And I wrote my first article that was not a medical article in many years and this was published with Kevin MD and after that I use writing as a way to express myself and to kind of cope with the things that were happening to me. So when the opportunity of writing Okay, in front of me, it was kind of fun, natural next step to use it as a way to advocate for what they think is right to share my feelings. And in a very interesting way also to heal because I was truly in a situation of burnout, that I didn't want to recognize that that's fine. But I needed to change my life or the way that I was living my life. And writing the book was my, my, you know, my internal pariet of healing, and changing and improving.

Howard Brown: 00:05:46

You know, as as, as an author coming out like you are right now I, I use that it was very therapeutic, I have to tell you, I just interviewed a woman named Peggy Gleason, on our recent podcasts on nurse burnout. And it's real. I mean, I mean, the amount of extra hours everyone's working and the risk they're taking, you know, it's, it's real people just walking away, even though even though the, you know, maybe pay wages are going up, it is hard to maintain any balance, and it's not healthy. And so I can understand that you are facing that as a physician in these last few years to

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:06:19

Yes, and I believe that the word burnout has been overused, has been losing the meaning per se. I am kind of afraid sometimes to use it because of this kind of weird perception. Or now it was coined as a term several, several decades ago, initially only as a stress related to work, right and just recently, a couple of years ago, is now part of a diagnosis or clinical diagnosis is recognized as a clinical situation, they have seen that change tremendously is that right now, we don't talk about burnout only related to work, or working many hours or having a stressful job. But there is parenting burnout to so so we are showing symptoms all over of being not only dire, because that's one of the symptoms, but really not being able to cope with the stress of life in a healthy way. And asserted to behave in ways or present ourselves in front of others in ways that doesn't represent who we are, in reality. And as parents, right when you are we're not at work is a big problem of yours, right? But when you are, we're now also at home, right and you represent yourself in an inappropriate way in front of your kids, what you're creating is a bigger problem, because these kids are seeing you as a role model. And you are not exactly a very good role model if you are stressed and upset, not giving the love and the care that your kids need from

Howard Brown: 00:08:04

you know, you're right. And there's lots of names for it. In the cancer world. We call it chemo brain or brain fog, but it's PTSD, and you know, in the military, but I never thought about that of you know, and now COVID You know, PTSD alone COVID and parenting P PTSD. You're right, it's just there. So tell me this, Dr. Z. So your book kind of how you came about it, and you know, through COVID, and you wanted to write and use that, therapeutically, you tell me you wrote in this collaborative. So tell me about that and how that's worked for you.

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:08:38

So it's collaborative in many ways. Number one, because I join an institute, the creators Institute from your son University. So we are a group a cohort, each of us writing our own books, but we are doing it supporting each other, which is very interesting, because for those that are writing a book, they will understand that you however you understand is not so easy. And you also have good days and bad days and they said that you are inspired on Saturdays that you read what you wrote that you are like, Oh my God, these will never happen right that imposter syndrome and etc. So the fact that we are growing as I grow through this has been very, I don't know positive because you know that someone else is going through the same and and we support each other. The second reason why this is collaborative is because I interview more than 30 individuals expert in their areas that not only allow me to tell their stories or to share their areas of expertise, but in some way they became my mentors, and many of them even my friends now. And what is funny about this part of the story is that the majority I never met before I just send them around them they're suggesting me Same thing, asking for help. I am trying to write a book while I am healing. I am clueless about this, I need to learn, will you help me? And I was surprised to have these amazing people, many of them very famous, right recognize, in many levels saying yes. So that was the second part of the collaborative experience. And later when the book is must already a reality, seeing those surrounded me, supporting me even sometimes not knowing me, just because they believe that the message that they have is positive. So I call these workouts a collective journey, instead of just my work.

Howard Brown: 00:10:44

What's the 3g cycle? Why do you that title?

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:10:47

So three theories come from Gaul, which for me, is the way that I start everything, and I believe that all of us, we start with something in our life goals, what do we want to achieve, or what society is forcing us to achieve? Right? That grid, that is this fuel and energy that keeps us alert and oriented and running after this, this goal. And then in theory, when you close the cycle, you shouldn't be achieving your goal. But the truth is that that doesn't happen many times. And I will say majority of times, that goal that we were running after is not necessarily the one that we obtain, because of many reasons. And I do not want to say that the reason is failure, because I don't seem that changing your path, recognizing that there are other ways to do sayings, or terrein, again, is a representation of failure. I just think that this is a representation of growth. If you understand that this is not your path anymore. You wanted to be an artist when you were 14, you are 50. Now and you think that being an artist is not for you. It's not failure is you are a different person than when you were 14, right? And try again, is not failure, either failure if you if you don't get what you want, and you don't try again. But if you're trying to get this job a second time. So what do you get from all these thriving, rethinking and rephrasing you can grow, and that's my third G. If the learning process, the growing process, with good things happening to you, which I call the positive catalysts and negative things happening to you, which I call them negative catalysts, that doing news in your favor, using adversity in your favor to grow and to become a better version of yourself.

Howard Brown: 00:12:41

It's awesome. Can you give a couple of teases a couple of stories that maybe you can share with my viewers and listeners?

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:12:50

Yeah, probably. I mean, all of them. They are amazing. I, I love the one that is the one that touch my heart on and probably as a woman and as a mother is a story of a beautiful lady. Lastly, she lost her son by suicide when he was in his 20s Very healthy die. Hansel going to law school and, and truly without any red flags that will make you feel that something like this was, you know, ready to happen. And that will be your adversity, right? You can say this your narrative catalyst? And the question is what happened after that, right. And for me, her process of grow started with a new goal, when she said that she will not happen again. So she created that program or organization where she use her experience to motivate others and to prevent suicide in kids and young adults. And when she's teaching others about resilience, the importance of resilience. And in this case, this is her goal, her grade is this love that she has for her son and for her his memory, his memory, and the growth process is all the new adversity and the new opportunities that she's having through this process. Right and, and I feel that this is a beautiful example of how to use negative events, to to grow to and to heal others. Another one that I like, tremendously and will be very connected to your story. I'm probably your book right and your audience is a young kid, very recognized as a professional athlete. One day he falls down practicing he was in his 20s also as a routine CT of his head because of the fall. They found a big brain tumor randomly. This is probably 10 or 11 years later, he had several new episodes and a couple of surgeries. This last one done during COVID, and was actually a brain surgeon, done while he was away, which is a very complex procedure. And he transformed his life after these events, and became a mentor for all others, and he is actually helping others. And, and an expert on, on, you know, on grow and how to navigate life, even when you've, you have fear, and you live adversity. And for me, it's very inspirational story also. And you can see that there are two different trauma there. And I love I want to bring back something that you mentioned, you mentioned PTSD, right. And I feel and I agree with you that burnout really is PTSD, right, and why I like to use burnouts or PTSD, because give me the solution. When you talk about a stress, right, or trauma and trauma could be whatever it could be, you are getting older, and you don't like that your dog is lost your bomb is that I mean, many colors, many flavors depends of what you feel is drama. But when you go to drama, your baseline will go down. Right. And during drama, there are many options. One is that you will stay in drama, and that is PTSD, post traumatic stress, right? Disorder, you may go a little better. And you are kind of in a survival mode where you can function, but you are not yourself yet. You can go through resilience. And everybody talks about resilience, like something so amazing, I disagree. And I will explain why. Because you're just bouncing back to be the same. So imagine we went through two years of college. And that means a lot of opportunities to change your mind, and learn to write about so many things. And two years later, you are exactly the same person that two years ago. That doesn't make sense that is very for me. So positive psychology brings a new term that these grow post traumatic growth. So that means that after everything that happened, you not only bounce back to your baseline, but you actually learn something you grow you are a better version of yourself. And that's why I like comparing burnout or stress with post traumatic stress and trauma because that brings positive psychology concept, post traumatic growth as an opportunity for all of us to improve to keep going and not to just be resilient or survive in life, which is not a good way to the wish here.

Howard Brown: 00:17:59

So Dr. Z, I mean, you've grown now because you're going to become a published author. And it's, it's amazing, and you're telling these people's stories, and they're they are growing. Some of them had hard times but they're, you're showing people how they can overcome and get back up again. And that's so important. Because we all get knocked down in life, whether it's health, whether it's a job, whether it's relationships, many reasons for getting knocked down, but the key is to how you can get back up again and and get get over that positive side of things not back to baseline. I agree 100% with that. So tell me how does someone get in touch with you?

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:18:37

So my website is www.3Gcycle.live L I V E, and there you can find stories and context to all the people that I interview so you can actually see their stories, some podcasts and also my LinkedIn on my email. This is amazing. So

Howard Brown: 00:19:04

I love this as a passion project your your you've done this to help yourself but you're helping so many others you know the 3g cycle, the secret of achieving Join Meeting and well being by new degree press. This is exciting. And so I always say that I want to thank you for your shining brightly. Yeah, Dr. Z shining brightly with us today. Yeah, we are friends. We are partners in this journey of bringing a book and stories to the world. And thank you for being here. This is exciting and what a what a great thing and people are gonna gain so much from from reading your stories and keep on keep on shining bright.

Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski: 00:19:41

Thank you so much for having me on. I send everybody would loveit.

Howard Brown: 00:19:50

Thank you.