RECLAIMING YOUR POWER With Ryn Sloane

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Howard, hello. It's Howard brown. It's the

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Shining Brightly Show. Welcome back. Oh my god. By raving fans,

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I'm so excited today I have an amazing, amazing guest and story

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to tell you. Ryn Sloane, welcome. How are you?

Ryn Sloane: 00:00:18

Thank you. I'm good. How are you?

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I'm awesome. Oh, God, for those of you that are

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listening, I have to describe she's got Mandalorians and what

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is behind you.

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These are the things that bring me joy. These are my

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Funko Pops, my quirky little a lot of Batman, Joker. Harley

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Quinn, those are my favorites. And Deadpool, those are my

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favorites, a little bit of transformers that I grew up

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with, Nightmare Before Christmas, of course. And you've

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got to have Snowball from pets, because he's the best

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I got it. And you have your pink ribbon for breast

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cancer awareness. I love it. So thank you for sharing that for

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those that are watching will be able to watch on YouTube or see

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this. It's, it's an amazing studio set. So I just want to

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tell you how to describe that for the listening and the

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viewing audience as well. So let me tell you a little bit about

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and I were introduced. Big shout out to Gail Katz, right? And

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she's the best. She's She's a mentor and friend to me, and I

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know she is to you, but let me tell you about Ryn a little bit,

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because she is incredible. So Ryn Sloane, with an e, okay, is

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not just a breast cancer survivor. She is a warrior and a

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thriver. She was diagnosed at the young age of 38 with

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invasive ductal carcinoma, e3, slash, PR positive. Her too, and

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she fought through a double mastectomy, expanders and

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implant reconstruction. It is just brutal and life changing

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and tested every ounce of her willpower, but she has emerged

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stronger through raw self expression and learning how to

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progress deep into the emotional impact of cancer. Ren avoided

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the common traps of PTSD and depression when she saw this

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massive gap in support for cancer survivors and maybe even

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trauma survivors of lots of things, she embraced her purpose

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to guide others through the darkness of survivorship. So the

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light, which we I call shining brightly, Ren has developed the

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Sloan healing method. It's a full human approach to address

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mind, body and soul healing. And this transformative work not

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only helps clients heal the invisible scars of cancer, but

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empowers cancer warriors to remove the fear and skin

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society. She teaches them how to live beyond cancer, no matter

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their stage or diagnosis. And I tell you that we are in such

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alignment because it is beautiful, because that's how

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you take people from darkness to lift up yourself, and then go

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lift up others, and that is shining brightly, and that's why

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you're here, because we're going to talk about that much more.

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But before we do that, I want to ask you a question, how do you

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shine brightly each day?

Ryn Sloane: 00:03:05

That's a great question. My most favorite thing

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that I do every single day is take a pause and look at what

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I'm grateful for. And every day, I try to find three different

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things, but I do it in a way. It's not like a checklist, it's

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a feeling.

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I didn't do that so important. Yeah, neither did

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I, by the way, I look in the mirror every morning, and I

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actually say a mantra that to I am grateful, I am blessed, and I

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am damn lucky to be alive. Let's go make this a great day. Let's

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go make this a great day, and we do that by choosing kindness and

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joy and healing and gratitude and not choosing hate and all

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that stuff. So that's chapter one in my book. So we just

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covered that. So thank you. All right. Well, let's dig in a

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little bit, because your story is incredible, and you are so

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courageous. The word that when I met you, was like, this is a

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woman of courage and a person of courage. And I just in such

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respect and awe of you as I am most cancer patients in

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treatment and in survivorship. So give me a little more

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background. Take us through, you know, the journey.

Ryn Sloane: 00:04:22

Oh yeah. So I was, I was 38 I was visiting family in

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my hometown of Toronto in September 2018 and for some

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weird reason that day after my shower, I felt a lump like I

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never did a self check, but prior, and I just was like, let

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me just check this. And had a lump. And I was like, Oh my God,

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it was just one of those sinking feelings. And then you can't

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tell anybody, because you don't really know what you found. So

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it was a really long trip. I was in my head the entire time, and

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it was really challenging. And within six weeks I was

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diagnosed. And in that six week period I was diagnosed. And

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biopsies and tests and double mastectomy, it was like, really

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fast, and I kind of describe it as a tornado, being inside of a

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tornado. You know, it happens so fast, and you're just you're in

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shock, and it doesn't seem real, and is this really happening?

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And you're hanging on for dear life, and your whole life is up

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in the air, and everything's fine around you. And yeah, it

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was a ride, and it was, it was a really tough one, and that was

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not my first health battle. I had many prior from when I was

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pregnant with my son at 38 so basically my entire 30s was

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health trauma, really preparing me for for what I do now. Um,

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but, yeah, a lot of, a lot of health trauma, body trauma, and

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breast cancer, like that. One really knocked me down. Really

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knocked me down. I was, when I was diagnosed, I was at my

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physically strongest I had ever been. Um, I'm a little person,

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so to me, to be strong is important, because otherwise you

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get bullied, right? So it was always like, very mindful of

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that, and that was a big part of my identity. And I went from my

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strongest to literally a month after my mastectomy. I was 99

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pounds and scrawny and couldn't stand up straight at that time,

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and I was devastated, really devastated. And for about 30

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seconds, I had the same thoughts that we all have as to, why is

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this happening? What did I do? Why me? And decided, no, I'm not

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playing this game. I decided, all right, one of us is going

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down. Let's go like because I got a five year old and I'm not

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ready, and so I decided, all right, it's time to fight, and

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we'll see which one of us goes down. And I had my sights way

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ahead, even though I was in a lot of a dark tunnel for a long

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time, I just kept my sights very forward, and every single day,

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would just keep seeing where I'm going, what's the goal, and just

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whatever I could do that day to get a step closer to it is

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really what kept me going.

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I want to say thank you for that introduction,

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because it you know, we all when I was diagnosed now twice, I was

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analog and 23 and a half years old, and then 50 for the colon

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rectal cancer stage three and the metastatic stage four. And

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everyone deals with it a little bit differently, but I say that

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we all get knocked down in health and in life and in

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business and finance and relationships, and we have to

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get back up again. But it is absolutely very complex. It's

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ABC soup of a whole new language. You're learning a

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whole new language of oncology and cancer that you don't

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understand you were not trained for, and where to go for help,

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where to go for support. And quite frankly, I call that

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walking in darkness and that shock, that denial, that fear,

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that anger is all justified. No one has to tell you how to

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handle it. You handle it the way you want to handle it. I always

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say, and I know you say, just don't handle it alone. Don't

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walk alone. Don't walk alone. And that's that's the key to

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both of our our coaching and our teaching and our premises is

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that if you can build your Calvary, build your support

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infrastructure, and if you can't people like you and I build it

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with you and for you, and that's what we do. That's what we do to

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do that. So tell me about where you found the strength and to

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figure this out. I mean, because you said you took about five

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seconds, but I'm sure it's longer, but you this happened

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very quick, very, very quickly to you, and you had body changes

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that, you know, really, where you're curable, that's, you

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know, the woman's breast, that's part of you. And you had to have

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reconstruction. And that's, I don't even how you, you know,

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emotionally, can deal with that, but you had to,

Ryn Sloane: 00:09:03

I did, but to be honest with you, so I had those

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previous health challenges, right, going through pregnancy,

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and then with my son, and he was an emergency, and then my body

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was all messed up, and I had a hernia, and, like, founded a

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head end of me, like it was a mess. It was a mess, and so I

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think that kind of helped prep me, but I feel like my situation

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was a little bit different with the breast cancer, because I had

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this conversation with my my breast surgeon, I remember

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originally the plan was a lumpectomy, because where they

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found the lump and it was small enough they felt very confident

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they could just go in and remove it, and that would be that. But

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after more tests, they ended up finding actually a second lump

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on the same side. And so she called me and said, it's an

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automatic mastectomy. And I said to her, great, like, if, if

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we're looking at that, we're going to. Do the full thing like

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I'm not playing games. I don't and I really like to say that

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this is such a personal choice, and there's not a right answer,

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it's the answer that you're you feel comfortable making. And for

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me, it was just an instant take them both. I don't want to think

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about this again. I don't want to worry about this again. And

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and the night before my surgery, I kind of went into the

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bathroom, I took a picture, kind of said, Thank you so much for

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being with me for 38 years. I love you, but I'm sorry you have

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to go because I need to. I'm trying to save my life. I, like,

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literally did that, and I never done any kind of ritual or

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anything like that prior. And so for me, I wasn't devastated to

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lose that body part. And at the same time, I also my brain

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didn't know what a mastectomy meant. It wasn't until about a

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year ago, I'm coming up to six years in survivorship, and it

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wasn't until about a year ago, a year and a half ago, that I

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heard a mastectomy is an amputation, and when I heard

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that, it took me a few days to process it, because I was like,

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whoa. And once I did process it, so many things finally made

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sense to my brain. And I think that's really important, because

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we don't talk about it in those terms, but when we do talk about

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it, all of a sudden, it makes sense to us as people that are

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not medically trained. We don't speak medical terms. A

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mastectomy, to my brain, means nothing, right? But when I say

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amputation, now I understand okay, like I get stuck between

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doors, sometimes I walk into things, sometimes, because I

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don't have that sensation when now I understand where before it

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was like, what? Why? Like, why does this happen? It didn't make

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sense. So I looked at it honestly. I don't stomach

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medical stuff. Well, I get very nauseous and Wheezy and queasy

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and all the things. But when I was finally able to see what I

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looked like with the expanders in after the mastectomy, and I

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could take the tape off the incision. So that was the first

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surgery. It took me a long time to do that, I decided I earned

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these scars like these are battle wounds. So my mentality

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was very different. I didn't feel like I lost a sexual part

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of me because I was like, You know what I'm fighting here.

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This is, this is okay. Like, I don't, I don't know how to

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formulate the words properly around this. It's always tricky

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to me because it's a very touchy subject, but I took it as more

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of a warrior's kind of like I went to battle, and now I have

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these triumph wounds, like, that's how I decided to look at

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it, versus I lost something. But

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it's very personal. I appreciate people

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that keep their their their cancer diagnosis, treatment or

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survivorship, very private. You and I are very public. And

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whether you call yourself a badass or a warrior or it's on a

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journey, I respect that. If you don't, I respect that too, but

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it it changes you. It changes you. And when I had a 4% chance

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of living from stage four metastatic colorectal cancer and

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colon cancer specifically, your priorities change your life.

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Clock changes, you know, I just want to see my daughter graduate

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high school, I was asking for a couple of years to walk across

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that stage and get that diploma, and she did, and then walk

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across the stage and get her college diploma. And now that

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she's a TV reporter on Missoula, Montana with a boyfriend, at the

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right time, I will walk her down the aisle. And the goals get

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bigger, and the life clock is now gets to be expanded, and

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that's not always for everyone and how you deal with this. But

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now I want to change subjects a little bit, because thank you

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for sharing very deep, personal part of you, but I want to talk

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about healing, and that the approach to healing that you

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have, the ashes of courage community you have built. And

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then lastly, you know, we'll talk about survivorship, but

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let's talk about ashes of courage and your approach to

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healing first.

Ryn Sloane: 00:14:18

So, yeah, ashes of courage is my free support

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community that I built with a dear friend of mine, Candice

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Doucette, who's also a she's a breast cancer fighter, stage

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four, NBC, incredible human. We were very, very intentional with

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this support group. And so when I went through breast cancer, I

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didn't have a support group. I felt very out of place because I

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was 38 all the pamphlets, all the posters, all this stuff in

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the clinic, it was much older women, and I thought, okay,

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something's wrong with me, like it wasn't common to be a young

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person going through breast cancer, and it wasn't portrayed

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that way either. So I didn't go looking for a support group,

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because I didn't want to be the baby in the group. I didn't feel

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like. Yes. So I had basically one or two people, and that was

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it. And I do not recommend that. I don't so I wanted to build a

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support community that felt very safe to people, no matter where

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they are in their cancer journey, what their diagnosis

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is, what kind of cancer it is doesn't matter. I wanted them to

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be able to land somewhere where they felt safe, where they felt

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seen and understood. And I also am very big none of my

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communities or spaces or when you come into my world, there is

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no judgment. We leave that at the door because it's not

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helpful. So ashes of courage is a new support community. We just

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launched it this year, and we have some incredible humans,

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people from many different kinds of cancer, and every month, we

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get to connect with each other directly over zoom, like you and

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I are doing right now, which has been a really special event we

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all look forward to every every year, every month, and we get to

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know each other on a different level than you would if it's

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just through chatting. It's been, it's been a beautiful

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experience to be honest with you, to be able to build that so

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people can come in and just be who they are and just let down

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their guards and say, you know, I'm having a bad day, and we can

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be there for them and help them through that, you know, or

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celebrate something that could happen too.

Howard Brown: 00:16:29

Yeah, I really appreciate that you've invited

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me in and I participated. And I think that just the group has

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real honesty, authenticity, but its approach is really, really

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nice, because you can celebrate the big and small victories, and

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you can celebrate, you know, some really hard stuff that

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people are still going through at this stage and things like

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that. And I think that it's important to have that outlet.

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You have to have people on your team that are willing to hear

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you and guide you and support you, because it's a it's a tough

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walk alone, and it's dark, and when people can share a bit of

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light and pick you up that day, that can mean everything from

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not wanting to get out of bed that day, and it's different for

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Everybody. Side effects are different, the emotional trauma,

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the physical trauma, the financial toxicity, how you're

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dealing with relationships, with kids, with other family members,

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work, co workers. Boy, I've just seen the gambit, and I know you

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have too, as well. So I love this program. Tell me about it's

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called heal, bravely, your survivorship, because I know the

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numbers, all right, 18 million people living with cancer,

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growing to 30 million by the end of 2030 people are living with

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cancer. They're living with all the effects of it, and they're

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trying to put, as I call it, Humpty, Dumpty back together

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again, put their lives back together, emotionally,

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physically, financially, in relationships and more. So tell

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me about that program.

Ryn Sloane: 00:18:03

Yeah, heal bravely is basically teaching somebody

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how to put themselves back together again, how to reclaim

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their lives, how to find hope and joy again. And basically

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what I call it is learning how to heal the invisible scars,

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because they're pretty big, from cancer, and I learned going

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through all of my health challenges, I have a really

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unique, fun sometimes, and really effective approach to do

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it. And it's, it's not, it's not really a standard approach,

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which I'm kind proud of, because I like to kind of go on my own

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path. But it's it's a healing program. It's a 12 month healing

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program. And I literally walk side by side with each person

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that comes in. And my invitation is to come in as the messy human

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that you are, put everything on the table, and together we're

Ryn Sloane: 00:18:53

going to sort it. We don't do just the good stuff for just the

Ryn Sloane: 00:18:57

bad stuff. We do all of it because that's how we heal. We

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:01

gotta look at everything. We're gonna process it little by

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:05

little. I'm gonna teach you a lot of stuff that's gonna help

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:09

basically change your life. But we start with cancer, and by the

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:13

end of it, I really need to take, like, a before and after

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:17

photo. I was saying this to a client of mine the other day,

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:21

who's been with me for almost six months, because literally,

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:25

somebody's physical face changes. It's like wild to see

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:28

how they literally evolve to become a different version of

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:32

themselves, and I get to witness it, and it's such an honor and a

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:36

joy to watch that

Howard Brown: 00:19:37

It's transformative it sounds like

Howard Brown: 00:19:40

there's so many people that need that help, and know that someone

Howard Brown: 00:19:43

who needs that help as well. You use the term called scanxiety.

Howard Brown: 00:19:47

Now I know what that is. Tell people what scanxiety is.

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:51

Scanxiety is that awful fear that develops from

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:56

having to go to a doctor's appointment, a follow up, a

Ryn Sloane: 00:19:59

scan. And waiting for test results, like all of it. And as

Ryn Sloane: 00:20:04

you know, I think it's a cancer community term that we've kind

Ryn Sloane: 00:20:07

of dubbed it scanxiety, but it's anxiety. It's anxiety around

Ryn Sloane: 00:20:12

anything, basically medical or waiting for information. You

Ryn Sloane: 00:20:17

know, that kind of thing,

Howard Brown: 00:20:20

stress. It is stressful. It is stress. It is

Howard Brown: 00:20:24

it is stress. So I am dealing with that stress because

Howard Brown: 00:20:29

sometimes you're waiting for bad news or the shoe to drop, or,

Howard Brown: 00:20:34

you know, we live by our scans and our test results and our

Howard Brown: 00:20:37

doctor's appointments that actually propel us. And in what

Howard Brown: 00:20:42

we call surveillance mode of survivorship, it's a quarterly

Howard Brown: 00:20:46

visit to basically check to see where things are at. And if you

Howard Brown: 00:20:50

progress, that's bad news. If you say stable, that's typically

Howard Brown: 00:20:53

good news. And if you regress or you stay, no evidence of disease

Howard Brown: 00:20:58

at this time, you are grateful. But those appointments that they

Howard Brown: 00:21:03

bring on that so thank you for sharing that as well. Well,

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:05

we actually tackle that though. Okay, anxiety and

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:09

fear are biggies, and I can tell you, most people, when they come

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:13

into my world, in that program, within about six to eight weeks,

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:16

we've dealt with it and there's no more scanxiety.

Howard Brown: 00:21:20

Wow, wow, wow, wow. Listen, I know that this is

Howard Brown: 00:21:24

we have so much more to dig in, but this is a tease. I want

Howard Brown: 00:21:26

people to contact you, so let's put on our sunglasses. Yeah, no,

Howard Brown: 00:21:29

absolutely. We're going to put our sunglasses. We are going to

Howard Brown: 00:21:32

shine brightly together. This is the shining brightly spotlight

Howard Brown: 00:21:34

on, on rinse, long. Tell people how best to get in touch with

Howard Brown: 00:21:37

you, to learn about your community, your programs, and

Howard Brown: 00:21:40

then leave me with some inspiration to close off the

Howard Brown: 00:21:43

show.

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:43

Yeah, I can be found on Facebook or Instagram at Ryn

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:48

Sloane with an E at the end. Or you can visit my website,

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:53

rynsloane.com with an E again, I forget what I told you was going

Ryn Sloane: 00:21:58

to be my inspiration.

Howard Brown: 00:22:00

I think you had a quote of inspiration.

Ryn Sloane: 00:22:04

I forget what it was. Did you write it down? I

Ryn Sloane: 00:22:09

didn't read it. I

Howard Brown: 00:22:10

didn't, it's okay. But did you something about a

Howard Brown: 00:22:12

folder or something? I can't remember. I did not write it

Howard Brown: 00:22:14

down. But

Ryn Sloane: 00:22:14

no, but I would go, Oh, I trust in the unfolding of

Ryn Sloane: 00:22:18

my life. That is actually one of the beliefs that I work on. I do

Ryn Sloane: 00:22:23

belief work every day, and that's currently one of my beliefs.

Howard Brown: 00:22:27

Say it again.

Ryn Sloane: 00:22:29

I believe in the unfolding of my life.

Howard Brown: 00:22:34

I love it. Thank you that I just wanted people to

Howard Brown: 00:22:37

hear it because it's that's we've did remember it. So chemo

Howard Brown: 00:22:41

brain or not, we both figured it out. So thank you. Well You have

Howard Brown: 00:22:46

been listening or watching the shining brightly podcast show

Howard Brown: 00:22:50

with the incredible Rin Sloan, thank you. You can get a hold of

Howard Brown: 00:22:54

me and see this show on 24 channels via captivate.fm and

Howard Brown: 00:22:58

get in touch with me. Shinybritely.com Learn about my

Howard Brown: 00:23:02

book. Hire me to speak and facilitate your next fundraiser

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or your show, and learn about my advocacy work in cancer

Howard Brown: 00:23:09

screening, cancer treatment and cancer survivorship, along with

Howard Brown: 00:23:14

Ren and others, and then also my advocacy work in interfaith

Howard Brown: 00:23:18

relations, getting to know the other, choosing not to hate as

Howard Brown: 00:23:22

well of what I'm all about. And just remember I also I got to

Howard Brown: 00:23:26

thank my people that made me look good today as well. So my

Howard Brown: 00:23:30

publisher, free frontage publishing, read the spirit

Howard Brown: 00:23:33

magazine podcast, finishing team from amplifyou up in British

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Columbia, Canada, and also diamond moments magazine, thank

Howard Brown: 00:23:41

you for your support and sponsorship and making me look

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good. Now, if we choose to shine brightly every day, sometimes we

Howard Brown: 00:23:50

can't, but if we do for ourselves and then lift up

Howard Brown: 00:23:53

others in our communities and neighborhoods and even around

Howard Brown: 00:23:57

the world, okay, we will become a force multiplier for good and

Howard Brown: 00:24:01

positive change, and yes, the world does become a better

Howard Brown: 00:24:05

place. Thank you. Ryn, thank you. Health Health Health health

Howard Brown: 00:24:09

to you and to everyone you support. Thank you.

Ryn Sloane: 00:24:12

Thank you too, applause.