COMPASSION IS IN FASHION With Ali Horriyat

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Hello, it's Howard brown. It's the shining,

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brightly show. Oh my god, we have a great one today. It's

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titled compassion is in fashion. And you are going to meet one

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extraordinary human. And I just met him, Ali, how are you?

Ali Horriyat: 00:00:18

I'm doing well, thank you for having me here.

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I'm thrilled to have you, I just have to tell

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you that in learning more about you, and spending time with you,

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you have had such a great life, which we're going to talk about,

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but you are a purpose driven human. And I absolutely love

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that because your whole purpose is lifting up others and lifting

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people up, and you call it in love. And we're going to talk

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more about that. But I just I'm so glad to have you here. We got

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a very high energy show. And we're going to share a lot about

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your what your passion project is and what your life is about,

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as well. So let me let me share people about you a little bit

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here and stuff. From your bio. So compassionate, he's the

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founder, Ali Hurriyat left the lucrative profit driven world of

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finance in 2016, to devote himself to his vision of society

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where compassion, empathy, social impact are at the heart

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of his actions. In 2020, right, probably before the pandemic, he

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launched compassion visa, to spread his vision. He was born

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in Dubai, he had defended, attended schools in the UAE, and

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in France and in Switzerland. So he's a world traveller. He also

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actually did higher education in Canada. So he has an

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undergraduate and graduate degrees in economics, political

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science, philosophy, business, international relations, and

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conflict resolution plus religion. Wow. This is amazing.

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Ali, you are the author of 14 books and two more on the way,

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including a collection of essays and poetry. And the themes range

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from racism to capitalism, spirituality, loving compassion.

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And here's the bottom line you believe that humans must love

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always and always love, love that quote, Wow, impressive. But

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here's the question, how do you shine brightly every day?

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I think I tell myself every day that I have to

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do something that is purposeful, that is a part of a legacy work.

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And to me legacy is not about I need to do something to be

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remembered in history or anything like that legacy to me

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is, when you look back at your life, how proud are you? Are you

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have every moment that you can remember? And how much does

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every one of these moments, reflect on your surroundings? So

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that is a measure I take with me every day, you know, and I'm a

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social person, so I could be out. And I could speak to

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strangers, you know, friends, whatever it may be myself

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thinking loudly about how can I make an impact where I am, you

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know, whether I'm in Dubai, whether I'm in London, whether

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I'm in Canada, wherever I may be in the world, wherever I'm based

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in a community at that moment, I need to always make an impact

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because and I thought about this in this way, I thought, I asked

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people generally, you know, who was the wealthiest person in

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1994, not a lot of people will remember, you know, the Forbes

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list of 1994 or 2004, or 1974. But you go back into what do you

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remember of people who touched you who moved to you, and some

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examples come up. And you notice those examples, were not about,

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you know, the best musician or the best song of the year or the

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richest person or the or any of that stuff, it's always about

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how you felt connected through that person, how the

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relationship built through that person and how that person was a

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value added in the world. Those are the people will really

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remember the Super Value Added people in the world. So every

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day, I tell myself, Ally, today you got to shine today, you got

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to be a Super Value Added person. And then I go through

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the data say I could have done better and then the next day

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starts over

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and you get to do it all over again. Well, that's

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the soul of shining brightly is to lift up others okay and make

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the world a better place. So, you and I are extremely aligned

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and and passionate and devoted to that. So alright, the name

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what is what is compassionate visa.

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So capacities, that name came to me when I left

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when I left my work, so to speak in 2016. As he said, I took

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about, you know, a few years of just travelling and finding

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myself and trying to think of what is my purpose, what can be

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my purpose. And during that time I realised, you know, compassion

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is the driving force in the world, you know, and passion as

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part of compassion is the driving force. And then I

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thought to myself, Okay, I could be very compassionate. I could

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see homeless people on the road and cry. As I'm passing by in a

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bus or a car or walking or whatever, I could be very

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compassionate towards animals and feel really bad that they,

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you know, they're getting slaughtered. But I'm not doing

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anything about it. So what's the point of that compassion,

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whether I am compassionate or not without the action, that

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makes no difference I need to perform so that my compassion

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manifests. And so I realised, that is what activism is

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activism isn't necessarily, you know, placards and standing in

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front of embassies and yelling, because that just creates a lot

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of tension and violence and misunderstanding and

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miscommunication. You know, there's a time in place for

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peaceful protest, but it's not everyday and it's not all the

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time. And it's not when it turns violent. And it's not when

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you're obstructing others freedoms. So I thought there

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must be a better way to be an activist. And then to me

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activism became your personal actions that can reflect those

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values that you see and compassion in your own

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compassion. And to use that activism, use your actions, so

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to speak, to play out loudly, what you're thinking and what

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you're going through emotionally. And I said,

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perfect. I know of some very historical people like that, you

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know, Moses, Jesus, mom, these are names that come up, you

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know, when you think about Gandhi, Mandela, you know,

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Martin Luther King, mother, Teresa, Teresa. Yeah, you know,

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the list goes on, but it's not. We don't have an act. Thinking

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about and I say, what do you call these people, because some

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people call them activists, some people, you know, there's so

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many names, but just and it's just one name that all of them

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started out out of compassion. I mean, when we talk Gandhi, the

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guy was in London, had his law firm was doing okay, but he's

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looking back at his country saying, This isn't good I feel

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for my country, and it drove him back home, to perform his

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action, so to speak. So that's when I put the words compassion

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and activist together, and it said, Come pacifist. And that

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was the beginning of the work. Then I kept looking at the word

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and I said, this words not complete for me, come pacifist.

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And then I'm multilingual. And I'm very, very, very grateful to

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all the people in my life who caused that because in English,

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we don't have a gender in our language differentiation, like a

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book is a book, it's not a sheet. It's not a he, you know,

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we say our book, we don't say he book. But for example, in

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French, you know, a car, what you have is law, it's a sheet,

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she car, she vehicle, so to speak, it's not, you know, the,

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and so I started thinking about compassion. And I thought,

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compassion comes from that universal, nurturing, feeling,

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you know, what we call mother nature, and what every mother

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is, you know, it comes from that feminine power within

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everybody's ability. And I think it's embedded in our DNA. And we

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have compassion within us. And I think two examples, like, you

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know, the easiest meal one can have is a new newborn, because,

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you know, the newborn is, you know, comes out, and boom, you

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can eat it. But we don't do that. And most animals don't do

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that. And the reason is, we have compassion, to nurture, to raise

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to support to help, you know, to expand this horizon of love that

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we have communally. And so I thought to myself, That's

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exactly it. Compassion is when I'm at my most feminine power.

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And that gave me this concept of thinking, you know, what, I see

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the physical sexes, you know, there are differences in the

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bodies, you know, one can be impregnated and have a child and

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the other one cannot I see those differences. But in gender, I'm

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also starting to realise why we have all these, you know,

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hundreds of different genders now, because every time we move

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each day from one place to another, in that emotion, we

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want to label it. So today, I may feel my feminine powers

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coming on. So I want to label myself in some way and that

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gender tomorrow may be very masculine, what I'm doing, I

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want to label myself and their gender. But if I don't label at

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all and I say I can be the entire spectrum as required,

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then where does capacity sit in it, and it requires an E at the

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end because that e is the feminine II of the Latin based

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languages, for example, and you also get that in Arabic and the

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Aramaic languages because all of them have the feminine and

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masculine as well, you know, Hebrew, Arabic all of those

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languages. So, the E was added in to the capacities which

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starts with a T and then it became pacifist, in that way of

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pronunciation. And it became complete for me because it is

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compassion with action that is based In that motherly nurturer

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of the universe, the way it's created, the way its functions,

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the way it takes care of us, our environment, the sun, all all of

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those things that, you know, we take for granted in the world,

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they are all part of the nurturing of how we survive. I

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mean, yeah, the sun right behind you shining brightly. That's

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right, you know, that's what it is, it starts from there without

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the sun's energy without the sun's nurture the sun's mother

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leanness without the sun's love, there is no earth the way we

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know it. I

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want to tell you that so when I when I met you,

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and not now thank you for that definition, because it's, you

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know, basically you put the words together, and it has deep,

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deep meaning. But just like in chapter one of my book, my 101

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year old, Orthodox Jewish grandmother said, to choose

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kindness, and then to choose gratitude and choose healing and

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choose giving and choose not to hate, and they all have to have

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actions. Okay? Positivity is nice, but plus tau is activity

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with action is more powerful compassion with action. So thank

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you for that. Now, in my research, I looked up and you

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actually designed capacities as an octopus. Why? Why an octopus?

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That's just, it's interesting.

Ali Horriyat: 00:11:09

Okay, so when I started capacities, you know,

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the idea was that social movement to bring people

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together and assign some actions to this compassion so that it

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can, you know, move somewhere, so they can be purposeful to

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something to have some yields, in a sense, and manifestation.

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And then I thought, okay, how do you do this, you know, I can't

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just stand up in the middle of a park and say, hey, people come

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join me in you know, capacities is going to make changes in the

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world, I need to provide people with certain programmes, certain

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things to be involved in so that this can happen certain avenues.

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And, you know, I had personal experiences that guided me

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towards these arms that you know, the tentacles, so to speak

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of the octopus, but essentially, I thought, the octopus fits

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really well, because the octopus has this large brain and its

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head. And each tentacle has a little brain. And each one of

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those tentacles works through the little brain to perform the

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action that maximises the benefit of the entire organism,

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which is the entire octopus. And now, from my philosophical

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education, I, you know, fell on to spinosus philosophy. And he,

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back in a long time ago, you know, he got excommunicated for

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this idea. But he basically from the Jewish community in the

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Netherlands, then he basically turned around and said, you

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know, everything's got, everything's one, everything's

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connected, you know, everything's literally one. And

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so I thought, imagine the entire planet, all the life in the

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entire plant, all those brains, all that consciousness being

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one, that is the octopus, and each of us is a tentacle is an

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extension. And these programmes, they become the attributes where

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these extensions connect to. So, for example, say you are a

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writer, and you have a book, and you say, You know what, instead

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of going to x and y publisher, or to sell my rights away to

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some other publisher, or publishing, you know, self

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publishing, and going through all the loops of trying to get

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my book out there and my message out there, I'm going to join

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capacities publishing, as one of those people who's bringing

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energy to that one tentacle, we're going to put the book out

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from there, the proceeds are going to help the entire

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organism and it will develop the world into the better place that

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we want it to give in those platforms, to people. So that's

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just one example out of you know,

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I love the octopus, because I think of my

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Hindu brothers and sisters that talk about many gods but one

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supreme being all contributing to the greater greater good.

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Now, you listen, you are a very successful hedge fund manager.

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And now you've decided to kind of just help the world. And so

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what is the future that you aspire to what's Where's where's

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the the little gains and the large end games here.

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I was always a visionary. When I when I started

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in the finance game. I never was satisfied with working as you

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know, high ranking executive in any of the firm's or any of the

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banks or anything like that. I was always shooting for the sky

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because I thought, hey, you know, so and so did it. They

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started right around where I was like, why am I going to go and

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work somewhere for $80,000 a year when, you know, this could

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be me. And I was always ambitious, and I was financially

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driven that you know, that was really that was the main

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motivator. So I went after it. I got to, you know, places that

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finance I didn't, I didn't even expect to get to those places.

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And I did. And now when I turned back, I say to myself, once a

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winner, you know, you can always win because you know that you

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won once, it doesn't matter what it was at what game it was at

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what practice it was at what finals it was, you know, you

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want once and you know, you have a need to win again, this time,

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I want to dedicate the win to making the world a better place.

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So where does capacities kind of sit back and say we

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accomplished? I think never, because what I want is that

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visionary space of a world without suffering a world with

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minimal suffering a world that is not suffering, because of us

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making the suffering, in a sense. So that would be ideal.

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Now, what is realistic, what is, you know, the places that I say,

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okay, for example, this is what pays the rent, we need to hit

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that milestone, at least, those realistic arms is seeing

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progress in the world. So if our programmes are actually bringing

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benefit to the people we're trying to help to the globe,

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we're trying to help to the aspects that we're trying to re

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envision in a sense, then I start beginning to feel

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satisfied in a sense and content that we're moving in the right

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direction.

Howard Brown: 00:16:17

It's such a noble goal. And again, it aligns with

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the shining brightly movement, right, is to make the world a

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better place. And you have actually emphasised the arts.

Howard Brown: 00:16:28

Why is that?

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So the arts for me, are the reflection of you

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know, the arts is the reflection of society. So, in a sense, you

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go back to Leonardo da Vinci, and you know, he had a sketch of

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a helicopter. You know, and you think about that, like, how,

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how, how do you come up with that? Right? And you think it's

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the arts, it's the imagination is the expression of the

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imagination, he put his imagination on paper? And then

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he thought, How do I get this done? Well, that took a few 100

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years. But you know, we kept growing towards our imagination

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to realise our imagination. You know, some people watch Star

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Trek, decades ago, there was no concept of space travel, then it

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was an imaginary thing. I think 50 years from now, will be very

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normal for some people to have space travel. So, you know, the

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arts always precedes what really manifests and what happens in

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every creation, invention, you think about any invention, any

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creation, any step forward, and you realise it was through the

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expression of some form of the arts, one medium of art that

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began that movement, and then it went into its sciences it went

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into its, you know, mathematics and all these other things to

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become realised even Einstein was imagining theories imagining

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concepts before he tried to get it out into its physics

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components and understand them, which is how he saw the

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universe.

Howard Brown: 00:18:07

I know it's incredible that imagination is

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you know, becomes an again a helicopter, you know, many many

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years later, but we're talking right now over video

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communications, that you know, when I grew up as a young boy,

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you grew up in it that didn't exist. So you know, things are

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advancing now. What is what is the game plan to roll this out?

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Because you advocating for children and animal and

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environmental and complete social harmony? What's, what's

Howard Brown: 00:18:30

the game? What's the immediate game plan moving forward from

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today. So

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the game plan moving forward from today is

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simple. We have capacities up now people can join people can

Ali Horriyat: 00:18:41

become a part of it, people can bring their value to capacities,

Ali Horriyat: 00:18:45

essentially, whether they're coming in in any of the arms of

Ali Horriyat: 00:18:48

capacities, whether they're coming in at the foundation

Ali Horriyat: 00:18:51

level, they want to donate, they want to participate. They want

Ali Horriyat: 00:18:55

to say, Hey, I'm a writer, I have a book, I have a story to

Ali Horriyat: 00:18:58

tell, I need a platform ally, how do we work this? You know,

Ali Horriyat: 00:19:01

how do we get involved in this space or music and all the other

Ali Horriyat: 00:19:04

arts that we have on our website. The point is to get

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this out there now. We have something special up our

Ali Horriyat: 00:19:11

sleeves, which we're launching next year, it's going to be

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real, the you know, the real show, essentially, when that

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comes out, it will open the floodgates for people to really

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be engaged with capacities then we have some programmes, you

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know, from our TV programme and other things, our carbon

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labelling programme, all of those that are starting out this

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year. And we're really putting all of our might sort of speak

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into our events. And that event is going to be the catalyst for

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change in the world on a global scale. It's a very, you know,

Ali Horriyat: 00:19:49

ambitious project. It's a large project, but I think that's

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what's needed in the world today. There are a lot of

Ali Horriyat: 00:19:54

movements, a lot of people who are trying to do a little bit on

Ali Horriyat: 00:19:58

their own and I think this is where that octopus comes

Ali Horriyat: 00:20:02

together. This is where, you know, the big brain sits and

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says, Okay, we're home, the organisms healthy. And now we

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can really grow. And that's really what we're pushing for.

Ali Horriyat: 00:20:12

So the more people join, the more people become a part of

Ali Horriyat: 00:20:15

this, the more, we start spreading what we're doing over

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the next few months, and, you know, telling people what we're

Ali Horriyat: 00:20:22

going to do over the next year, there'll be a lot of excitement

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moving forward.

Howard Brown: 00:20:26

This, this is an incredible movement, I am so

Howard Brown: 00:20:29

glad that that we are collaborating and connecting and

Howard Brown: 00:20:32

communicating and working together. Because we this is a

Howard Brown: 00:20:35

lot of work to do. And you're putting the infrastructure for

Howard Brown: 00:20:38

it to do that on such a big scale. And I'm just proud to

Howard Brown: 00:20:41

proud to know you. So I'd like you to put on some sunglasses

Howard Brown: 00:20:45

for a second, we're going to actually do the shining,

Howard Brown: 00:20:48

brightly spotlight, because this is the short show. And let's put

Howard Brown: 00:20:51

on glasses. Oh, you're yet we are shining the spotlight on

Howard Brown: 00:20:55

you. Please tell people how they should get in touch with you. I

Howard Brown: 00:20:58

know that you have books coming out and two new ones, but

Howard Brown: 00:21:01

they'll find you on where to find you on your books, but then

Howard Brown: 00:21:05

share some inspiration with us. And then I'll kick it over to me

Howard Brown: 00:21:08

to close out the show.

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:11

So you can find us capacities is a unique word. So

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add capacities is where you'll find us on all our socials and

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capacities.com is the grand website inside of which you will

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:25

find tabs to the publishing house, the foundation, the other

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:29

programmes that we have there. And that's the easiest way to

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:32

get to know capacities. And I think the one thing I want to

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tell people and leave people with is love always always love

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:41

which means every and this I learned from Buddhism, you know

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:45

your modular mind every time you want to make a decision, keep

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:49

the compassion module in, don't trade it for the capitalist

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:52

module. Don't trade it for the aggression module. Don't trade

Ali Horriyat: 00:21:56

it for the fear, fight module. None of those things always keep

Ali Horriyat: 00:22:01

your compassion module on and remember to always love until

Ali Horriyat: 00:22:07

actions based in love. Thank you for having me. Amazing.

Howard Brown: 00:22:11

Oh, it's absolutely what a great movement

Howard Brown: 00:22:14

people we're going to spread the word. People need to learn about

Howard Brown: 00:22:17

it and and step in and help us move move mountains together.

Howard Brown: 00:22:22

It's incredible. So this has been the shining brightly show,

Howard Brown: 00:22:24

you can obviously reach me Howard Brown, you're Mr. shining

Howard Brown: 00:22:28

brightly at shining brightly.com And the book and my speaking

Howard Brown: 00:22:32

gigs and also the podcasts are there. But most importantly, my

Howard Brown: 00:22:36

advocacy, what I care about and you know all I care about

Howard Brown: 00:22:40

mentorship and entrepreneurship leadership, and I care about

Howard Brown: 00:22:42

making the world a better place and of course, the cancer world

Howard Brown: 00:22:45

as well. Let me thank a few folks that got me here. The

Howard Brown: 00:22:48

publishing house financial publishing, read the spirit.com

Howard Brown: 00:22:50

where I blog twice a month, and my podcasts finishing houses

Howard Brown: 00:22:56

amplify you they're amazing. They make me look good every

Howard Brown: 00:22:58

week. And a shout out to the folks that Colin town as well.

Howard Brown: 00:23:02

So just remember, as we've discussed here today, okay. If

Howard Brown: 00:23:06

you choose to shine brightly each day by taking action, we

Howard Brown: 00:23:09

learned that today, right for yourself, and then go lift up

Howard Brown: 00:23:13

others in your neighbourhoods in your communities, the world will

Howard Brown: 00:23:16

absolutely be a better place. Oh, you are yet. You are just an

Howard Brown: 00:23:21

amazing, purpose driven human. And I'm so glad that we have met

Howard Brown: 00:23:23

and you came on the show today. Thank you.

Ali Horriyat: 00:23:26

Thank you, and thank you for everyone who's

Ali Horriyat: 00:23:28

listening and watching