AND THE EMMY GOES TO MIRACLE TWINS With Danette Kubanda

Howard Brown: 00:00:03

Hello, it's Howard Brown is the Shining Brightly

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Show. Oh my goodness. I am just so excited for this show. I have

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topics about winning really shiny trophies and talking about

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twins. Oh my god Danette Kubanda, welcome. I'm so glad to

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see you. I am thrilled to be here. Thank you so much for

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having me, Howard. We're gonna have some fun. But let me tell

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you about the superstar that I have. You know, I'm looking on

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the screen and you're listening or watching right now. So,

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Danette Kubanda is an Emmy Award winning television producer turn

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Media and Publicity coach, she helps authors, experts,

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entrepreneurs share their message with the masses, very

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important to be heard, right? So they can help people who need

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them most. Her career spans 20 years in the TV biz. And I was

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in the TV biz on the back end of it, the backside of it behind

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the camera. And she earned the highest award in the field

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twice, two Daytime Emmy Awards to her credit, and she began her

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career at CNN. And then she moved on to the legendary Oprah

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Winfrey Show. What's up Oprah shout out. Okay. We she spent

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four years helping the viewers there to live their best lives.

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I love that that was such a great show. We still get her

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magazine, I think what an influence right worldwide. She

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went on to write and produce for a Home and Garden Television,

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find living network, CBS, Fox 20 television, and you are the co

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author of Amazon Best Selling but creativity is wherever you

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want it to be. Love that. Today, you serve as a publicity

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consultant and media coach for national publicity summit, the

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Quantum Leap programme, super connected media mastermind and

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decision you have your own private coaching clients. Your

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mission is to help experts become the media guests they

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wanted and you wanted to book on your shows. This is awesome. So

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welcome. Glad to be here. But before we do that, okay, you

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have to share something that you know you not everyone knows

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about you. So give me give us a little little tea here on

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something we may not know.

Danette Kubanda: 00:02:06

I once had to charter an aeroplane for a

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gorilla.

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Come again. Why would you have to do that?

Danette Kubanda: 00:02:14

It was actually for a show we were doing for

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animal planets. And the gorilla didn't fit in a commercial

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cabin. And they didn't want him to fly cargo. So he got his own

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chartered aeroplane to make it to Chicago.

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That's different. And the gorilla made it the

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first class of course.

Danette Kubanda: 00:02:34

Absolutely. And it was such a fun show. But it's

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so important to just like think outside the box and figure out a

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way to solve whatever problems in front of you. I can imagine

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that your manager goes get that gorilla here. Go figure it out.

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And you did. That's all thank you for sharing that amazing. So

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as Danette and I have gotten to know each other she calls

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herself a small town girl from Pennsylvania and I can't get the

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journey song out of my head now because it's one of my my faves

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all time don't stop believing that small town girl. But tell

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us about that small town girl and how she eventually got to

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the Emmy stage. Yeah, I I grew up in in Johnstown,

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Pennsylvania, which if anyone's heard of it, they only know it

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because of the flood. So you know, it's an old steel town. By

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the time I got to high school, the mills had already closed

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down. It was just, you know, there wasn't much there. So it

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wasn't a situation where I had role models, you know, who were

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out there becoming television producers are chasing big

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dreams. But in my head, I always wanted to work in TV, and I was

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going to do whatever it took to get there.

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So you went to college for journalism? Is that

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what it was?

Danette Kubanda: 00:03:50

I did, I actually started working in TV

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when I was 16. In high school, I had to become a Boy Scout, a boy

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scout explorer, they had a programme where we can work at

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our local Cablevision station. And through that, I was able to

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learn the ropes of running a camera. We've covered city

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council meetings, we did local sporting events. It was just a

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really great introduction into the industry. And from there, I

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chose that top 10 journalism schools so that I could get more

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hands on experience. I knew being in the field was better

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than just book learning.

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But what How did you know you knew that you

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wanted to be you know, in the in the television business and

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maybe just as a little girl, that's that was the goal and you

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made it happen?

Danette Kubanda: 00:04:39

I was obsessed with TV. I watched absolutely

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every sitcom that was available to me. I watched all the talk

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shows. And yeah, that's just what I wanted to do. I wanted to

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be Donna Reed, you know, she was the first woman who was credited

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as a producer on her own show and I loved that girl and she

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was out there you know, making her dream happen. So I knew what

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I wanted. And I just had to go about figuring out how to make

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it happen.

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I have to tell you because I actually worked at

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avid technology. And we changed from analogue to digital how

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broadcast and film and TV and commercials were all made. I got

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to see it from the backside. Like, I think I told you in the

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green room, like I was in KNBC studios in LA during the OJ

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Simpson Chase. I mean, we were glued to it. I mean, we were

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like fans, and you know, the helicopters and everything and

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the big lineup, but you know, chase him and things like that.

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But I really feel very proud of that in my career. I never

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wanted to be on TV, but I was got to be in support how

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television was made. It was cool. And so you know, with that

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comes some privileges, like meeting Jay lenno, and going and

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seeing cool TV shows, like friends and things like that

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being made up and all that. So it was a lot of fun. But it's

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it's really amazing. But this is, you know, that take us

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through here that you know, where were you actually, I think

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it was some type of Judge show, right? What was the show that

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actually got you some awards?

Danette Kubanda: 00:06:05

Yeah, I was working for Christina's court.

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So it was a quick it was supposed to be three months in

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Texas. And I figured I could live anywhere for three months.

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And it ended up being one of the best experiences, I was able to

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win two Emmys from it. That's where I met my husband. So it it

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was a pretty productive three months for me.

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Wow, look. And by the way, those that are will be

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watching the video. I mean, she's got the Emmys right there

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will show a picture of that right behind her. So she's got

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the goodies right behind her, which is really impressive. And

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so that's absolutely incredible. But I mean, again, you've been

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really persistent in your career, you've made it happen.

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But I want to talk about some personal struggle and things

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like that. So take us into your miracle twins. And then being a

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twin. It's just brings such joy, because I'm a twin and my twin

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saved my life. So tell me about your story there.

Danette Kubanda: 00:07:03

Oh, and I love hearing that. I love hearing

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that you and your twin are still so close. I hope that for my for

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my babies too. Yeah, it was, it was a situation where I never

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thought I'd have to worry about having kids. I'm the youngest of

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six. I have 15 nieces and nephews, I thought, okay, that's

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just something that you know, anybody can do. But when it came

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my turn, it wasn't so easy. And we had to turn to science. I'm

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so thankful for IVF I'm so thankful for the amazing doctors

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who are out there. And even with those medical advancements, we

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still have struggles, I still went through two different

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miscarriages, I we lost an embryo during a thaw. We lost we

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had a vanishing twin, my first baby had a twin, and that didn't

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make it past eight weeks. You know, and so now I have the

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healthy 11 year old boy and healthy nine year old twins. And

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I'm so thankful for them. But it was a very scary time. We didn't

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know what was going to happen, you know that they the

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statistics are out there. That one in 10 couples struggle with

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infertility. And they share that so that you don't feel so alone.

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But it's a very dark time where you do feel very alone. So I

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think that's part of the big reason I share my story is

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because there is hope. And there are different avenues you can

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explore. And I was ready and willing to explore whatever

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options were available to me.

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It's amazing. So there's a chapter in my book

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called Miracle Girl. And you know, when you're diagnosed with

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cancer at 23 years old, I was not thinking I was gonna have

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kids I was thinking I wasn't going to live. And the fact that

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either the god vision or the genius of Dr. Eric Rubin, my you

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know, oncology Harvard fellow told me before chemotherapy, to

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go to the cryogenic centre and preserve sperm and then to meet

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my wife in Los Angeles and to call for that sperm 11 years

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later and go through in vitro fertilisation which is

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expensive, which is just emotionally draining right as

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you now and she grew eight eggs and then they defrost the sperm

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and put four back in and a harvest and and one became out

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our beautiful healthy, you know, baby girl, and you know all that

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goes back to my twin saving my life with her bone marrow. And

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I'm going to let you in a little secret. Okay. My twin sister has

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an older daughter, and she's now 25 But she has two twins that

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are 22 girl boy just like you. It's incredible.

Danette Kubanda: 00:09:38

That's the best. I'm so happy for your

Danette Kubanda: 00:09:40

family. That's amazing.

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So the message the message out there to anyone

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listening and watching is that you know that fertility

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conversations with your doctor. Okay, whether you're healthy or

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not, you need to have those but there are all surrogacy and

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there's adoption. There's lots of little ones out there.

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There's orphans out there are that, that need good families,

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they really do. And I think that's the message that you and

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I come together on is that, but we are I know you and I, we are

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so blessed to be able to have that and, and, and twins. It's

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it's incredible. It's really an incredible thing I can tell you

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that my sister is clearly you know, one of my best friends in

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my world. And on May 24, I celebrated my 34th year my bone

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marrow birthday. So happy bone marrow birthday, that's a

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birthday, celebrate 34 years alive, right? Unfortunately, it

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was a little hiccup in the winter with colon cancer, but

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all healthy and things like that now, so, but we all struggle,

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and then it's just such a beautiful thing. You know,

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family illness is important, right? And you have a very big

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family, lots of cousins. And again, you're just saying that

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over the holiday weekend, you are actually getting everyone

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together. And it's probably a big scene. But well, you got to

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take that all in. That's good stuff.

Danette Kubanda: 00:11:00

It absolutely is. And we've you know, I'm

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working in TV, I lived far away from my family for many, many

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years. And we actually just moved closer to them about two

Danette Kubanda: 00:11:09

years ago. And I always say it would have been so much better

Danette Kubanda: 00:11:11

to live in your family when I had newborn twins, you know, to

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have family to help out. But I'm so happy we have it now. And my

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babies get, you know, they get their aunts and their cousins

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show up to their baseball games and their basketball games. And

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it just makes such a difference to have people around.

Howard Brown: 00:11:27

Alright, so my sister and I, we actually used

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to watch this. And again, people maybe they might not remember

Howard Brown: 00:11:33

it, but there were the superheroes, right? And so there

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were the wonders. Activate, no form of water. So so every our

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birthdays are March 10. And when your twins birthday, April 8,

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April 8, okay, so we actually call ourselves the Wonder Twins.

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So I post a little thing on Facebook or whatever. And we do

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the Wonder Twin powers activate. It's, it's really cute. But you

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know, twins, they just have a bond. You know, I don't know

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about your twins. But they do. I'm sure they do. And, you know,

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hopefully they protect each other and support each other.

Howard Brown: 00:12:10

It's awesome. So any quick twin story that you have.

Danette Kubanda: 00:12:16

It was about two summers ago, and they both

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came to me. And they both had the tiniest little booboo in the

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exact same spot on the exact same knee. You know, and they're

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both showing me my look, isn't this fun? I was like, it must be

Danette Kubanda: 00:12:30

a twin thing. I didn't have any other explanation for it.

Howard Brown: 00:12:34

I love it. It's a twin thing for sure. So I think

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like there's a day for everything. I know, there's a

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national twin day out there someday, I don't know the exact

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date,

Danette Kubanda: 00:12:42

August and we now live near Twinsburg, Ohio,

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where they have the twins day festival, which you should check

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out at some point.

Howard Brown: 00:12:51

All right, I didn't even know that a

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Twinsburg Ohio, so we'll definitely do that. So tell me,

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you know, you know, the you're, you know, competent, combining

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being a working mom and having a family and things like that, you

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know, what are your takeaways from from being able to now be

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blessed with such a cool family? And also, you know, hitting the

Howard Brown: 00:13:11

Emmy stage and all that, what are your big takeaways?

Danette Kubanda: 00:13:14

You know, I think the big thing for me was

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that I really had goals in life, I had things I wanted to do. And

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I knew that I wanted to do them and be able to focus on them. So

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I'm really happy that I was able to go out and hit those career

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milestones before I became a mom so that I didn't have any

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regrets. So I have all of those career things out of the way.

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And now I can focus on being the mom I wanted to be, you know,

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I'm able to go to their all of their school functions and

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volunteer for field trips, and still be a working mom and still

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show them how important it is to still have have dreams and have

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goals. But I feel like there's a better balance now than there

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would have been if I was still working TV hours, which are very

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long, very involves a lot of travelling, I wouldn't have been

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able to be the mom I wanted to be and do that at the same time.

Danette Kubanda: 00:14:04

So I'm very thankful that I was able to work it out where I'm

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still doing something I love, I'm still contributing to

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amazing television shows, and amazing other media outlets,

Danette Kubanda: 00:14:15

because I'm working as a media coach now. But I can do it from

Danette Kubanda: 00:14:19

home and I can still be actively involved in my kids lives. It's

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it's difficult to strike that balance, but it's possible. And

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again, if it's something that you really want, there's a way

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to make it happen, that you are making it happen and you're

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living hopefully some type of balanced life and dedicated to

Danette Kubanda: 00:14:37

the family. You're you're you're managing it all.

Howard Brown: 00:14:40

So tell me about your coaching and what you're

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doing now. And then give me real short one tip that someone could

Howard Brown: 00:14:47

get to be better be media Ready.

Danette Kubanda: 00:14:50

Ready? Yeah, yeah. So now I'm working as a

Danette Kubanda: 00:14:52

media coach and publicity consultants. So I'm I'm coaching

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people, authors, experts, entrepreneurs who want to share

Danette Kubanda: 00:14:59

their message With the masses, they just don't necessarily know

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:01

how to get in front of those large audiences. And I'm, I'm

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really hoping that I'm guiding people into becoming the guests,

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:08

I would have wanted to book on my shows, I think one of the

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things people really struggle with is when they're pitching

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:15

the media, they're pitching their product, they're pitching

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:18

their book, their pitch, pitching their service, instead

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:22

of pitching, how they can help. So turning it around and

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:25

thinking about the audience, what is the audience going to

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:28

get from an interview with you, that's really what those

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:32

producers and editors are looking for. And that's what the

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:34

audience is looking for? How can you benefit that audience, share

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something with them, to make them start living a better life,

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:40

starting today, give them actionable steps that they can

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:44

take. And in sharing that piece of your expertise, it's going to

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:48

leave them wanting to know more, so they're going to want to go

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:50

buy your book, and they're gonna want to sign up for your

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:52

programmes, and they're going to want to buy your products. But

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:55

if you go out there talking about those, then they feel like

Danette Kubanda: 00:15:58

they're being sold. So you want to, like, be an example of what

Danette Kubanda: 00:16:02

you can do and how you can serve people.

Howard Brown: 00:16:04

I love it. And also, you know, there's got to

Howard Brown: 00:16:07

be an action. So my, my daughter, who's a TV reporter in

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Missoula, Montana, she always says positivity is great, but

Howard Brown: 00:16:14

positivity without action and impact is just positivity. So I

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love it that be able to show that impact. And, and that's

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what I'm all about. So, you know, there's there's the

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shining brightly, you know, moment is to be able to do that.

Howard Brown: 00:16:27

This is absolutely incredible. Well, the time goes by quick on

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a short show. So I'm going to ask you to put on your

Howard Brown: 00:16:34

sunglasses right now. All right. We're going to shine the

Howard Brown: 00:16:37

spotlight on you all look at those. What type of sunglasses

Howard Brown: 00:16:41

are they?

Danette Kubanda: 00:16:41

My daughter? Let me borrow her Taylor Swift

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sunglasses, because this was an important interview, and she

Danette Kubanda: 00:16:47

wanted you to be feel important.

Howard Brown: 00:16:49

All right, well, thank you, TJ. And they are

Howard Brown: 00:16:51

great. Their heart shapes, eyeglasses, they're amazing. So

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shining, brightly spotlight on you dinette, tell people how

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they should get a hold of you if you have talked about your book

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a little bit, and then share some inspiration and we'll close

Howard Brown: 00:17:02

out the show.

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:03

Excellent. Well, absolutely, you can visit

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:06

my website. It's just Dannette commando.com. And there are

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buttons on there to connect with me on Instagram, Facebook,

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:13

LinkedIn, all of the social media outlets, I would love to

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:18

hear from people and see how I can help you get your message in

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:21

front of the masses. And then as far as an inspirational the book

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:26

the book first. Oh, sure. So I was a co author on creativity is

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:31

whatever you want it to be. And I wrote about creativity as

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resilience because again, the it's about problem solving. It's

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about thinking outside the box, and finding unique ways to solve

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a problem or a struggle that you may be facing. You know, so I

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talked a little bit about my fertility journey, I talked

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about some different problems that I came across as a

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:53

television producer. And and one thing that kind of keeps ringing

Danette Kubanda: 00:17:59

in my head, I have three little kids, I watch a lot of animated

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movies. But there was a Toy Story Short, where they that

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they did for Halloween and they had a toy, an action figure

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named combat coral, and combat Carl never gives up combat Carl

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finds a way. I love those lines, because it's so true. It's and

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he was teaching Jesse you know, the little cowgirl how to get

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out of a predicament. And that kind of that soundbite realm was

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through my head. Don't give up find a way, look outside the box

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and find a way to find your dreams, chase your dream dreams

Danette Kubanda: 00:18:34

Chase chase your goals. So thanks.

Howard Brown: 00:18:37

Thank you for sharing that. That's awesome.

Howard Brown: 00:18:40

We'll take that. So I take the glasses off. And we're we'll

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close out the show. So this is the shining, brightly podcast

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show. And I just want to give a big shout out and thanks to the

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over 125,000 people that are actually downloading and

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reviewing and listening to this show each week and getting some

Howard Brown: 00:18:58

inspiration getting something out of it to take action on it

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makes me and just reinforces why I do this and why we why we

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actually get out and try to broadcast and, and share some

Howard Brown: 00:19:09

positive messages. You can get a hold of me at shining

Howard Brown: 00:19:12

brightly.com my speaking the book, The podcast is there also

Howard Brown: 00:19:15

more importantly, my advocacy in the entrepreneurship world at

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Babson College, cancer world and the interfaith world to get to

Howard Brown: 00:19:23

know the others especially in this time of, of hate and some

Howard Brown: 00:19:26

tough times we've got going on there, we need that positivity.

Howard Brown: 00:19:30

I really do emphasise that and again, Daniel, we've talked

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about today, twins and being a force multiplier for good and

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positive change. So just remember, okay, that we can do

Howard Brown: 00:19:41

it, we can get back up again from hard times. So shout out to

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the folks that make me look good front edge publishing, read the

Howard Brown: 00:19:48

spirit.com and the Amplify You network that makes my podcasts

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beautiful. And and then we'll just we'll close it up by saying

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if you choose to shine brightly a little bit each day for

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ourselves, take care of ourselves, and then go lift up

Howard Brown: 00:20:02

others in our communities in our neighbourhoods, the world will

Howard Brown: 00:20:06

be a better place, Danette it's been a real pleasure, thank you.

Howard Brown: 00:20:10

And I love the Emmys. Oh my god, it's sparkling. It's beautiful.

Howard Brown: 00:20:14

And keep being a beautiful mom and keep helping people and with

Howard Brown: 00:20:17

your media consulting. I just love to having you as a guest.

Howard Brown: 00:20:21

Thank you for being

Howard Brown: 00:20:22

I've had so much fun. Thank you for inviting me.