Episode 59

THE POWER PANTALOONS With Tonya Baillargeon

THE POWER TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE AFTER CANCER! In Episode 59 of the Shining Brightly Podcast Show (LINKS IN THE COMMETNS) titled, “THE POWER PANTILOONS”, my special guest is Tonya Baillargeon, a now 17-year cancer survivor is a cancer survivorship specialist and coach (like me) Working together with your oncologist's treatment plan, she's determined to help you vanquish fear, reshape your mindset, and unleash your inner warrior. Tonya's goal? To help you not just endure, but flourish. With her by your side, you're not just surviving cancer, you're conquering it. Tonya’s visualized putting on her WONDER WOMAN (underwear) Pantaloons for strength and hope to carry her forward. WHAT IS YOUR SUPERHERO UNDERWEAR? Come listen, download, share and review this inspiration and helpful show.

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About the guest – Tonya Baillargeon

• Tonya is on a mission to help a million people revolutionize their cancer journey, moving them from mere survival to full-on thriving. She's your go-to guide, helping cancer survivors adopt the winning mindset, build a powerhouse support team, and explore effective alternative wellness modalities. Working hand-in-hand with your oncologist's treatment plan, she's determined to help you vanquish fear, reshape your mindset, and unleash your inner warrior. Tonya's goal? To help you not just endure, but flourish. With her by your side, you're not just surviving cancer, you're conquering it. 

• Hello Magical world changers! Introducing Tonya, Holistic Cancer Wellness Guide CEO of the Gingered Rose LLC. She teaches survivors how to obtain the right mindset, create their power support group and add alternative wellness modalities to use in addition to what their oncologist recommends.

•  Today we are going to have real talk about hair loss, hydration and other changes you might experience while navigating a cancer diagnosis and 3 actionable steps you can take to empower yourself while you help harmonize your mind, body and spirit during this challenging time.  

• In this interview, you will realize that you aren’t alone in your journey and the issues that you are dealing with are not unique and there is support available for you!

About the Host:

Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Transcript
Howard Brown:

Hello, welcome to the Shining Brightly Show. It's

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Howard Brown. It's your maestro, it's your holiday Maestro. We're

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here right before Thanksgiving. And you'll hear this episode a

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little after as we head into the holiday season. But I've got an

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unbelievable guests as I always do. But welcome, Tonya.

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Baillargeon. hard to pronounce your name a little bit, but

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you'll correct me. Welcome to the show. So happy you're here.

Tonya Baillargeon:

Thank you so much, Howard for having me. It's

Tonya Baillargeon:

Tonya Baillargeon, but

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large and is that French? Or what is maybe in

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French? Yeah, French Canadian. All right. So I was there a

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little bit there. But thank you for that. So I'm just so happy

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to have you on the show. Because you and I have a lot of

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alignment there. And we're going to talk about that in a second.

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But let me introduce you a little bit to the audience here.

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And so, I want to tell you, Tonya is on a mission to help

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millions of people revolutionise their cancer journey, moving

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them from mere survival to full on thriving. Oh, I love that.

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Because we're all trying to kind of evolve clay trying to put

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Humpty Dumpty back together again. Sorry to interrupt. She

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is your go to guide for helping cancer survivors adopt a winning

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mindset. Build a powerhouse support team, explore effective

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alternative wellness modalities, but that working hand in hand

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with your oncologist treatment plan, and she is determined to

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help vanquish the fear. reshape your mindset. Unleash your inner

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warrior, your goal to help not just have you endure but

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flourish. With her by your side. You are not thriving cancer, you

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are conquering it. That's incredible. It's just

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incredible. That's you know, people need that and from me

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personally being I two times stage four cancer survivor.

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We're just trying to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, and

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put together our lives. Some people, it's just getting one

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step out of bed each day, other people are running marathons.

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And everything in between. Right, Tonya?

Tonya Baillargeon:

Absolutely. So shows your own pace. Exactly.

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So share something outside that bio that that we

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might not know about you that you want the audience to hear.

Tonya Baillargeon:

I will be celebrating 17 years in March.

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cancer free. Whoa,

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that gets an Amen and hallelujah. Oh my God,

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that's terrific. 17 year survivor in March. That's just

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that's the goal is to keep on living. Oh, thank you for

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sharing that. That's absolutely incredible. And a testament to

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your mental toughness and your, your your well being and as well

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as being able to just power through and build your life back

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up again. It's just beautiful. And so let's let's dive right

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in. So take take me back to about March of 2007.

Tonya Baillargeon:

And March 27 2007. Did date Yeah.

Howard Brown:

So let's start there. What's going on there? So

Tonya Baillargeon:

a friend of mine took me to my doctor

Tonya Baillargeon:

appointment. I you know, she just knew she knew I had no

Tonya Baillargeon:

idea, right? And my doctor said the dreaded words. Nobody wants

Tonya Baillargeon:

to hear you have cancer. Her lips moved, but I didn't hear

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anything else. Because I was just overwhelmed by the news,

Tonya Baillargeon:

right? Like nobody expects that diagnosis. Even if you think you

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have it, you just kind of stop in your tracks.

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So tell everyone what your diagnosis was

Tonya Baillargeon:

a carso sarcoma of the uterus. So a lot

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of people don't know, but a healthy uterus is only four

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ounces. When they ended up taking mine out. It was over 10

Tonya Baillargeon:

pounds.

Howard Brown:

So that was filled with fluid and tumour. Yeah.

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Wow. Now were you at a gynaecologist or yet a lady

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doctor yet you're who you were. And they they, they take out a

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sample it goes to pathology and right away they knew what your

Tonya Baillargeon:

Oh, it was? Absolutely not. So for me. There

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were no markers in my blood. My pap smear came back, fine or

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inconclusive. They did ultrasound, the trans vaginal

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ultrasound, all of that came back fine or inconclusive. They

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did what's called a Sano histogram, where they inflate

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the uterus with saline and the image that came back

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inconclusive. They actually had to do a DNC they had they had to

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scrape the uterine lining to find the cancer. And there was

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over 10 pounds of cancer in my body. And everybody assumes you

Tonya Baillargeon:

right everybody assumes the markers are in the blood, not

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always, not always know that that is true. I can tell you

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with colorectal cancer, you know the, the big towel is blood in

Tonya Baillargeon:

the stool, and I had none of that. None of that had it all.

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So I had maybe a little irritable bowel, some cramping,

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but nothing that bothered me, I just went on with my day. So

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sometimes they don't know until they go in, right? I was not

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told until my colonoscopy so you know, getting that waking up

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from the colonoscopy going. Doc's everything okay, no, I

Tonya Baillargeon:

found something. And when they find something, it's really,

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really bad news. So you're sitting in the doctor's office,

Tonya Baillargeon:

your girlfriend is stunned. You're you didn't, you didn't

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hear the what they said, when you finally got the diagnosis.

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After she said that I had cancer. I didn't hear anything

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else that she said, But my friend happens to be an RN. So

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she was able to catch all all of the information. And when we got

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back to her house, she sat me down in her her room, and she

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said, Okay, today's the day that you're allowed to be mad at God,

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have all the hissy fits that you want, scream, be depressed, do

Tonya Baillargeon:

all all of that right now. But tomorrow morning, we're going to

Tonya Baillargeon:

wake up and we're going to kick cancers butt.

Howard Brown:

Wow, that's a good friend. What's her name?

Tonya Baillargeon:

Her name is Madeline.

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Let's shout out to Madeline because that's a

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beautiful friend and a beautiful care partner to at least sit you

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down in fact that she was an RN and of training and all that.

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Because cancer diagnosis is confusing. It's complex. It's

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life changing. And my friend I will share that Lee Silverstein

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is a fellow stage four colon cancer. And he ran a podcast

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over 200 episodes called we have cancer because it's not just

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you. It's your family and it's your friends and we we as a

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community have cancer. So you know that very, very well. Now,

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you did the schedule you write for surgery, or did you do other

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treatments first or do you have to do chemo or radiation?

Tonya Baillargeon:

Yeah, the first thing was the

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hysterectomy. Six weeks after the diagnosis, I had a total

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hysterectomy. The surgery ran long. Because I'm overweight.

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The gynaecologist had had a problem but no complications. I

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did make it through. Okay. And then I had an appointment with

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an oncologist. And he talked about a chemotherapy radiation

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sandwich. And I literally looked at him and I said I'd I'd rather

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have the tuna. That sounds disgusting. But obviously, we

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went ahead and did that. Most chemotherapy, everybody

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understands that you go into like a little room and you have

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an IV. And it's you go and you leave, right? For me. The

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cisplatin, the the treatment was I was actually going to have to

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have what's called rescue drugs. before, during and after the

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chemotherapy. And because because of how long that took, I

Tonya Baillargeon:

actually had to be inpatient for four days a month for my

Tonya Baillargeon:

treatments. So I did three of those. And then I took a little

Tonya Baillargeon:

break. And then I had five and a half weeks of radiation, took a

Tonya Baillargeon:

little break, and then had another three rounds of chemo.

Tonya Baillargeon:

Wow.

Howard Brown:

Susan, for a second. Sure. I guess. The fact

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is, is that wow, first of all, this is platinum very toxic. I

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know that for sure. Because I've had it, it's very toxic. And

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also then radiation which I've had full body radiation as well,

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no fun. And you're doing this as an inpatient, because they're

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doing it as slow drip, and they're actually preparing your

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body to take it and then also to prepare to actually deal with it

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while it's inside of you. And your job is actually to get the

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chemo out by sweating and peeing and, and breathing. That's the

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way that it actually, you know, goes through your blood system

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and does its thing. And then the radiation was obviously to

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shrink the tumour and then you did another set of of chemo. But

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then you had the surgery where they actually did the removal of

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the first surgery was first Oh, they did that first and then

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you're doing this after post Okay, I did make

Tonya Baillargeon:

sure even though so when they did the

Tonya Baillargeon:

hysterectomies, they removed five lymph nodes, and all my

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lymph nodes came back fine. But they wanted to take the

Tonya Baillargeon:

precaution to go ahead and do this radical treatment because

Tonya Baillargeon:

of the amount of cancer that I had in my body.

Howard Brown:

Right? They don't know when they removed from

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surgery if they've gotten it all all, even the baby micro cells

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and all that. So I've been there when they took out, you know,

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and all the cancer out of my abdomen and pelvis and then

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poured hot chemotherapy in there which was radical, you know, in

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March of 18, and still kind of a crazy surgery. So Alright, so

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now you're you're healing and you're repairing after that,

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because this is all happening in a six month period. And so it

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was a 10 month period. Okay, so what happens next?

Tonya Baillargeon:

Then they sent me back into the world,

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right like just like yours On, all your treatment is done, you

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go back into the world. But while I was going through all of

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that, I incorporated a whole bunch of alternative wellness

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modalities. And I had a frank conversation with my oncologist.

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I'm like, Listen, I want to do I want to do aromatherapy I want

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to do herbalism I want to do flower essences I want to do.

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He's like, you can stop right there. As long as you don't put

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it in your mouth. I don't care what you do. So I said, okay, so

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no, no, no teas, no herbal teas. He said, No. And I said, why?

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And he said, because it may counteract the chemotherapy. And

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I was like, okay, but that to me was enough alignment with what I

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wanted, like, because I feel you have to have your whole entire

Tonya Baillargeon:

medical team has to be in alignment with you, right? You

Tonya Baillargeon:

don't want anybody mourning you. While you're standing there. You

Tonya Baillargeon:

don't want people giving you expiration dates. Obviously, you

Tonya Baillargeon:

want them to be honest with you, but your mindset is such a huge

Tonya Baillargeon:

part of your recovery of you have you're transitioning

Tonya Baillargeon:

through this trauma time.

Howard Brown:

Right. So I agree, I will tell you that when I went

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through my first cancer in 1989 1990, the talk of holistic

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medicine and mindset wasn't there, you know, before the

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internet before we had cell phones, and before we really had

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computer use, wasn't there this time around, you know, you know,

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26 years later, much more much more open. Not all doctors but

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but doctors to that. And we the patients living on the front

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lines, I will tell you that, you know, we were using THC gummies

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to combat nausea, you know, appetite and sleep way before

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the doctors actually then set Oh, that's an okay idea. You

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know, we're doing things that we got to solve first, sometimes.

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So sometimes they don't come along too soon. But I'm glad you

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got alignment with your doctor that it helps when you're on the

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same team, and you're pulling the same way. So I'm glad that

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helped. Now, tell me about this statement here. And I know it's

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the name of your podcast as well. The power pantaloons and

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tell me how Wonder Woman plays a role in this.

Tonya Baillargeon:

Every day, I had just one item on my to do

Tonya Baillargeon:

list. And that was I visualised putting on a pair of Wonder

Tonya Baillargeon:

Woman's underwear because Wonder Woman doesn't die. So that was

Tonya Baillargeon:

me, the act of physical representation of me deciding to

Tonya Baillargeon:

live every day, right? Yeah, so like, it's powerful, right. And

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there were days that definitely didn't happen. But I would say

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like 98 99% of the reason. The days I did actually manage to do

Tonya Baillargeon:

that, and because my survival rate was about 5%, I credit this

Tonya Baillargeon:

one activity, with 95% of the reason I made it through.

Howard Brown:

Wow. So that was your mindset. That was your

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visualisation. And you are basically saying, Oh, I'm

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putting on Wonder Woman's underwear. Okay. And that's

Howard Brown:

going to basically that's amazing. Really, you know, I

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think about it, you know, of me putting on my Men's depends my

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big boy pants, you know, before I go, you know, on a big trip or

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something like that, but you were putting on Wonder Woman's

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pants, your big girl pants there and that carried you through

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that's that's that's mindset. That's it really is. It's mental

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toughness, but that's visualisation that you

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transformed into your own version of Wonder Woman. I

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applaud that.

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Yeah, absolutely. We all do, right. Everybody who gets this

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diagnosis makes a decision, whether they make it overtly or

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or subconsciously, and how they handle everything in their

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treatment. And depends on that one decision, right? Like, you

Howard Brown:

know that some people choose not to be an active participant in

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their treatment. I've seen it happen. Yeah, that's it's sad,

Howard Brown:

but you can't control that decision for somebody else. You

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can only work on your own.

Howard Brown:

Absolutely. So now carry me forward. So some of the big

Howard Brown:

lessons that that you took away and carried forward.

Tonya Baillargeon:

Nothing puts you in a state of gratitude for

Tonya Baillargeon:

all of the time you have left faster than having an expiration

Tonya Baillargeon:

date put in your face. Not nothing gets you clear with who

Tonya Baillargeon:

you are, what you want in life, and what kind of person you want

Tonya Baillargeon:

to be faster than a death sentence.

Howard Brown:

Yeah, absolutely. I'll take a quick timeout and

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say, you know, we got cancer screening week coming up in

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December 4 through the night, go get screened, go get you know,

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go get check. You're not your optimal you if you If you don't

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so and we put it off during COVID, so the ability to get

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your, your mammogram, go get your prostate checked, if you're

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a guy, go get your colonoscopy, right, go go to your lady

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doctor, you know, go to the dentist, right? Please, please

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go check, get your checks, take care of seriously self care and

Howard Brown:

self love. So I would agree with that. And so you walk alongside

Howard Brown:

of cancer patients, caregivers and their families tell me about

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how that evolved.

Tonya Baillargeon:

So last year, I ended up with another cancer

Tonya Baillargeon:

scare. Why walking through that, it sort of was like a lightbulb

Tonya Baillargeon:

moment for me. Like, I felt like divinity was like, Excuse me,

Tonya Baillargeon:

ma'am. We gave you all of this intimate knowledge on how to

Tonya Baillargeon:

help somebody transition through this devastating diagnosis, and

Tonya Baillargeon:

you're not doing anything with it. And I was like, Ah, yes. All

Tonya Baillargeon:

right about that. So we're going to do something about that. And

Tonya Baillargeon:

I started my podcast, and I started working with survivors

Tonya Baillargeon:

and caregivers, building mindset, building their support

Tonya Baillargeon:

networks, building boundaries, like because some people just

Tonya Baillargeon:

have to be politely excused from your life, because they're not

Tonya Baillargeon:

in alignment with where you are as a person, whether they can't

Tonya Baillargeon:

handle your diagnosis, or whatever the reason is, it's

Tonya Baillargeon:

time for them to be away for a little while, or forever, right?

Tonya Baillargeon:

Like you make those decisions, and then to how to listen to

Tonya Baillargeon:

your body to intuitively choose what kind of alternative

Tonya Baillargeon:

wellness modalities that you want to use, while you in

Tonya Baillargeon:

addition to what your oncologist is telling you to do. Because I

Tonya Baillargeon:

think Mind, Body Spirit, they have to be together, because it

Tonya Baillargeon:

is a disease that ravages your mind, body, and spirit. So you

Tonya Baillargeon:

have to use all the tools in your toolbox to, to work through

Tonya Baillargeon:

and

Howard Brown:

use all the tools in your toolbox, I would say

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that, it's really important to have someone be able to walk

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alongside of you. And being that I'm in the colon cancer space I

Howard Brown:

call in town. That's what we do with patients, caregivers and

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families. And we get make sure that you're you're educated as a

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patient, and you actually have the support that you need. And

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that's important, because that's what you do as well. And that's

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a form of mentorship. And it's a really, it's a very important

Howard Brown:

skill. But I have to tell you that when I came into colon

Howard Brown:

cancer, I didn't know anything. But I was already a cancer

Howard Brown:

veteran, when I would did lymphoma in 1989 99. It was a

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deer in the headlights, I really didn't know what was going on.

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This time around, I was still a deer in the headlights, but my

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learning curve was much faster. And you know, I reached out to

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his people that were 510 15 steps ahead of me. All right,

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that had already walked that path. Now I wasn't going to walk

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the same path necessarily, but similar path. And they were

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telling me kind of what to expect and how to deal with

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things and how to get educated. And that was invaluable. Because

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instead of it being a big mystery, or something that's

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just a big black hole or fear, I was able to then use their

Howard Brown:

knowledge to make better decisions. And there were just

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days that they call me and I just didn't get out of bed and

Howard Brown:

they were like, Yeah, you're getting out of bed, and you're

Howard Brown:

walking the dog. And then you're having a bite of egg and cheese,

Howard Brown:

and then you can go back to bed. And so they were many

Howard Brown:

cheerleaders as well. And that's important. And I do that as well

Howard Brown:

like you, I do that still I still I mostly with a lot of men

Howard Brown:

in the colorectal cancer space. But they all want to get to

Howard Brown:

where we are, right we want to get to no evidence of disease or

Howard Brown:

remission. And that's that's the end game is to get your life

Howard Brown:

back. Now, that's a survivorship so a whole nother thing, right?

Howard Brown:

To get your to be able to then put the pieces of your life

Howard Brown:

back, you know, your career, your finances, your family, your

Howard Brown:

relationships. That's also a whole nother game as well. So

Howard Brown:

it's really important. So tell me about some of the workshops

Howard Brown:

that you that you offer.

Tonya Baillargeon:

Well, right now what I'm promoting is

Tonya Baillargeon:

medical binder, right? So somebody asked me what what what

Tonya Baillargeon:

did you do with with chemo brain and I was like, you know, that's

Tonya Baillargeon:

a really good point. So I built myself a medical binder so that

Tonya Baillargeon:

every time I went to a new doctor for whatever right blood

Tonya Baillargeon:

we're all of it was put in there. So when they asked me

Tonya Baillargeon:

well, what medication are you on? I didn't have to remember

Tonya Baillargeon:

it. My portable brain dead. It's all there. So that's one of the

Tonya Baillargeon:

things that I offer. I do one on one, coaching, I do group coach

Tonya Baillargeon:

coaching, and I am building a course that will be done based

Tonya Baillargeon:

on the seasons. I know that sounds a little a little odd but

Tonya Baillargeon:

based on the seasons where you're talking about breathwork

Tonya Baillargeon:

and meditation Asian connecting with nature, aromatherapy. You

Tonya Baillargeon:

know, stuff, nutrition, nutrition, let's talk about

Tonya Baillargeon:

nutrition for a second. Because for me, like mindsets right here

Tonya Baillargeon:

and getting your food right is right here, because making your

Tonya Baillargeon:

body into a more alkaline place is super important because

Howard Brown:

I think that, you know, what they throw so much

Howard Brown:

cancer can't survive in an alkaline place. So, yeah,

Howard Brown:

information at you. And to keep track of it is is a task. So

Howard Brown:

having that binder is really important. My caregiver, you

Howard Brown:

know, mom did it the first time and my wife, Lisa did it the

Howard Brown:

second time, but you got to keep track of it, because they asked

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you the same questions like 500 times, right, and you got to

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know your answers and, and then getting yourself to a place of

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good physical activity, good sleep, good nutrition is all

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part of the equation. And also, I have a thing that I call my

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happy place, my happy place happens to be the stress free

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zone on the basketball court, lots of people, you got to find

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that place where you're, you don't feel like a cancer

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patient. So it could be cooking, it could be travel, it could be

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music, it could be art, it could be meditation, I don't place

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judgement on that find one. So find a happy place, and you

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should definitely go there. Now very, very important to do that.

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And listen, you know, when you're in treatment, right of

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chemotherapy, and you're in radiation, or you've just had

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surgery, you've got to allow your cells chances to heal. That

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healing is really, really, really, really important. The

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other thing is, is that we live in the cancer world, at least I

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know you and I do is that the stage four cancer world is not

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kind. So people die all the time. And it's not that they

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didn't have a will to live, it's just that their cancer burden

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became too great. And God called them to heaven. And so that is a

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part of unfortunately, the world that we both work in each day.

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It's hard. It

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is hard. It is

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what? So it's really a great service that you

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offer. How do how are people responding, and when you see

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them, because you have to keep it private, but you're seeing

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people grow. And one baby step to big, big, big steps. When,

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you know helping somebody at the

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beginning, which is mindset, right? Finding their own version

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of Wonder Woman, whether it's that man or their grandmother,

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because she you know, was the most stubborn person on the

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planet, right? Like so once you find the person or the essence

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of the happiness or the strength or whatever it is that you think

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that you need to get through this, helping them discover

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which role model has that and then how to just draw on that.

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So grandma's apron, like, go get an apron, like you can

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physically go get an apron that represents that or you can just

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visualise it. And it's remarkable to see how the how

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easy it becomes for people to do that. Yeah, no, no really,

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really, really important.

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. Well, here we go. This is the part of the show

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that I want to actually shine the spotlight on you. This is

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the shining bright the spotlight. For those of you

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listening, I have my white magnetic glasses on and I'm

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shining it on Tonya. And I would love to tell people how they

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should best get a hold of you. And I know you have a freebie

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for the audience to take advantage of. And then wrap up

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the show with some inspiration for us. And then throw it back

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to me.

Tonya Baillargeon:

Sure, so you can reach me at link tree slash

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Tonya Baillargeon it's right behind me. So li n k t

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r.ie/TONYA Baillargeon. That's how you get a hold of me. What

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was the next question I've already forgot. That's okay.

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You you have a giveaway? Oh,

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yes, I do. So I have a giveaway that is the

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two essential oils that I used while I was going through chemo

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every day and that you absolutely should use not only

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for stress reduction and anxiety relief, but actually to help

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keep you in a calmer state. So that's the thing that I will be

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giving you today.

Howard Brown:

That's awesome. So we'll make sure those links are

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in there and they can get to your website and now be able to

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to get a hold of you. Share some inspiration with me inspire us.

Tonya Baillargeon:

So whether whether you think that Confucius

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said it or Henry Ford said it because they both said it.

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Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right.

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That's, you know that like that is my favourite quote and that

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really like the mindset piece Is that That's where it comes from

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for me. Yeah, just aside.

Howard Brown:

well, first of all 17 years, I'm at four. So I'm

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behind you a little bit, but we're with you together.

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Congratulations on that. Congratulations. Also that

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you're helping so many cancer patients, caregivers and

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families take the next step. I think that's the most important

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thing. So this has been the shining brightly podcast show.

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I'm Howard Brown, you can get a hold of me at shining

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brightly.com Learn about my podcast here, my speaking and

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also my advocacy and my book, as well. And just you know, the

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lesson that I share with everyone is that if we try to

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shine brightly, just a little bit each day, for ourselves, for

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others in our communities, the world will be a better place.

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Thanks for watching and listening. Till next time. Thank

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you