LEAD A LIMITLESS LIFE With Mark Fournier

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Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly

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Show. Oh my god, we got the coach of coaches. How many times

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do you meet a Life Mastery a peak performance coach? Well,

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I've got one here today, Mark Fournier. Welcome. How are you?

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What's happening?

Mark Fournier: 00:00:21

Awesome. Thank you for asking. I mean, awesome

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in terms of how I feel and see the world today, and I'm just

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happy to be on this call with you and can't wait to hopefully

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inspire a few listeners and see if we can contribute to their

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lives.

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Be well, we're gonna we're gonna make some

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impact today. So it's great. Let me tell you a little bit about

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Mark real short. So Mark is a Life Mastery and peak

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performance coach, number one best selling author, speaker

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trainer, and an Emmy Award winning filmmaker. And I love

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this part the best. He calls himself a humanitarian, that

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means he cares. And that to me, that's heart centered. Man,

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that's great. I don't normally do this. But I'm so captivated

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by your mission statement. And I just want to start the show with

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that. And then we'll, we'll dive right in after that. So listen

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to Mark's mission statement. Raising our level of

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consciousness not only helps us flourish as individuals, it all

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it is also how we will end the atrocities of our world, for

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enlightened beings to become heroes by nature. As such,

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helping to raise human consciousness on a global scale,

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is his passion and his purpose. I'm just letting that sink in.

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Because that's shining brightly my brother. That's that we are

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aligned. It's it's incredible. All right. So now, normal

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question, right? How do you shine brightly each day?

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Oh, thank you for asking that. You know what,

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maybe there's a kind of like a two part answer to that the, the

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first thing I do every single day is I go to a state of

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appreciation. It's a form of what we call disambiguation.

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Habituation is when we get so used to something that it's,

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we're no longer even aware of it. And that can be really

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helpful if you live next door to an airport or a train track. But

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when it comes to enjoying and appreciating our lives, it's not

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so good. Because you, you may have just moved into this

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beautiful home. And within a few months, you've habituated

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instead of thinking every day, Oh, I'm so fortunate to be in

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this home, you're thinking, oh, you know, this, it's an east

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west facing house. And now we're getting blasted by the sun. And

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you start noticing more of the negative things and taking the

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positive things for granted, as we do not only with our things,

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but with our people, with the people that we wake up next to.

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And so I go through this process every morning, of reminding

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myself of how fortunate I am, and I picture my children's

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smiling faces in my mind, and all the magic and wonder in my

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life. And it it's not about because I have more wonderful

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things than the next guy. It's because I spend more time

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thinking about them and focusing on them. And so the other half

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of that answer is there was a girl one day, it was she came up

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to me in the middle of a of a concert, or a seminar. And she

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told me, we've taken a break. And so I'm down there on the

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floor, mixing it up, and, and she told me that her mother was

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was in hospice, and she was dying. And she said that it was

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so hard to even be there. She said, we go there and

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everybody's so miserable. And it's just so hard. And it's so

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hard for my mom. And she said I don't know what to do. And I

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just smiled and said, Oh, it's really simple. Have you ever

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been someplace where there was there were challenges or was

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dark and depressing? Have you ever seen someone who refused to

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buy into that who refuse to be a victim to that those

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circumstances and decided they were going to bring the beauty,

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they were going to be the bright spot. And I said, you need to

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make this time. Let it be that you're the bright spot every

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time you walk in the door. They're looking forward to

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having you and she she cut me off. But isn't that

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inappropriate to be smiling and happy when you're with somebody

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who's dying? And I said, How would you like, what would you

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like if you were lying there in bed dying? Do you want a bunch

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of people crying and wailing? Or do you want somebody to come in

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with a smile and talk about what a wonderful life we're all still

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experiencing? And so on and so forth. And so she came back I

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saw a year later. And another seminar she says, Do you

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remember me? And after she explained her circumstances, I

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said, Oh my gosh, yeah, I do remember that. She goes, Well, I

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took your advice. And I put it it works so well. When I would

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go to the hospice. It lifted everyone she said so I have

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begun to apply it to every year of my life she says so I have

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now that's my new logo. My new everything is the bright spot.

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He says I like bright spot wherever I go in my life, and

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it's the happiest the best year I've ever Ahead.

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Wow, that's impact. And I love that. So I

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look in the mirror every day and as a guy that faced death twice,

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okay, I say that I am blessed, I am grateful, and I am very

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lucky. And how am I going to use my light to help myself and help

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others today, because most people look in the mirror, they

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don't like what they see, right. And we all get knocked down in

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life and in business and, and health and relationships. Got to

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get back up again. And you gotta, gotta gotta gotta gotta

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power through little baby steps, sometimes two steps back. So

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let's dig in a little bit more sure, you know what life threw

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you some curveballs share a little, you know, touch about

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your background and what you had to overcome a little bit.

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I'll do that. Howard, thank you, without

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coming from a victim space, which we may have a chance to

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weave in and out of this conversation, because I'm really

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big on on the power of mindsets, which is not same as an

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attitude. It's not like you know, your attitude, you can

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change every five seconds, you know, I'm in a good mood. I just

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heard something bad. And I'm in a bad mood. A mindset is much

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broader. It's like in The Matrix, it is the matrix. It's

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the lens through which you're viewing the world. That is your

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mindset. And if you have an opportunity mindset, which is

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the opposite opposite of a victim mindset, the opportunity

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mindset, classic Elon Musk is there's an opportunity in

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everything. There's no such thing as bad news, there's just

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news. Even though somebody may say I have a problem with an

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opportunity mindset, it's not a problem. It's just an unexpected

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outcome. And you say, Alright, where's the opportunity in this

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cloud? You know, it's the cliche with every cloud has a silver

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lining, and so on. But cliches are real, they've lasted 1000s

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of years, because they're so true. So when, when you can stay

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in that space, that say the opportunity space, it makes it

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difficult to be in the victim space. And so, so imagine

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looking at everything through a lens up and what's great about

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this. And so when I describe my past, instead of it being Oh,

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yeah, you know, it was really nasty. And for me, it's Wow,

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yeah, there were a lot of memorable experiences. That all

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culminated into who I am today, I have no regrets. So, so with

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that upfront, I can say, yeah, there have been both emotional

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and physical challenges. And we can touch on the physical

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because we have that commonality, the surviving

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cancer and so on. But I have to say that the trickiest parts for

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me were my folks got divorced when I was born, my mom trying

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to raise four kids, without child support without the salary

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of a hairdresser. But she was like that bit like that. That

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bartender that everybody comes to for advice. Well, she was the

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hairdressers that they did that with and she was a philosopher,

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hairdresser. So on the one side, she didn't have a lot of time

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for us because she was working day and night, six days a week.

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On the other side, when she did have time with us, it was

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quality time. And she would spend that time helping us

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actually evolve and become more enlightened from his for as far

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back as I can remember. Eventually, she married a fella

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who turned out to be such a good such a great guy, abusive,

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alcoholic, and, and so through my formative years, it turned

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out that all the things she had been teaching me started to come

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into play. The book she was giving me at 12, she gave me

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PSYCHO CYBERNETICS by Maxwell Maltz. And thinking Grow Rich,

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which, you know, classic, after that I was hooked. And so

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because of the adversity, because we were being challenged

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with no dad, and then it stuck, you know, stepped out. Because

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of that, she gave me all these tools. And even though they were

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really just to help me cope with the issues, I was able to apply

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them again to every other area of my life. And that became,

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it's just woven into my, into my soul. So, from that point on all

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the challenges I continually would come back to, and how can

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I turn this into something? So I've had 19 major surgeries. 11

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were orthopedic from sports injuries, broke my neck,

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snowboarding, my back play in hockey. Now my latest one was

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total knee replacement playing pickleball so I'm a pickleball

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are

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a danger? It's not supposed to be a dangerous

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sport.

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Well, I know that I've learned that you're not

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supposed to dive for balls. Yeah. So anyhow, so you know,

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there have been other challenges. Of course, only one

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out of two people in our country gets get gets to skip divorce,

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and I wasn't one of them. So. So, you know, and it's funny

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when, when I'm coaching with somebody, and we started talking

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inevitably always about relationships and marriage and

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intimate relationships. I've had folks say, Well, how can you

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coach me on, on relationships, you got divorced. And I smell

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it, I say, so wait a minute. You You want somebody coaching you

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on relationships whose they they married, the perfect person

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never had to do anything to keep their marriage alive. Everything

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always was perfect all the time. You want that guy coaching you?

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And they're like, Well, I Is there such a person I go first

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of all, probably not. Secondly, you want somebody who's been

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there, but somebody who got there before you and had the ups

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and downs and the issues and challenges. So you know what, in

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the long run, it's in your best interest that I've seen, both

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the good and the ugly. And of course, some of the other things

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we talked about was like the cancer. So I had stage three

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thyroid, and they caught it in time and did a couple of

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interesting things to remove it along with my thyroid. And

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probably the most harrowing of all of them was I was diagnosed

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temporarily with ALS, they have this very rare neuromuscular

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disorder. And it's way more rare than ALS. So I had a chance to

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figure out what would it what really matters, because for a

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week, before I went back to get retested for a week, I got to

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believe that I was dying of ALS, I had less than two years to go

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and, and I got to choose between a respirator where I couldn't

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move at all like Stephen Hawking, or just letting it have

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its way and be done in two years. And at the end of that

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year, I discovered some really, really important things. So

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we'll, we'll I'll weave them into date. Today's conversation,

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I

Howard Brown: 00:11:47

know what we'll dive in there. Thank you for

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sharing that because we've all had hardship. And we have to get

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back up. And it's the lessons learned that you're starting to

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dig into. I got asked the other day, what's my relationship with

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cancer? And I sat there and I didn't give an answer right

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away. And I said, it's love hate. I said, I hate that. I got

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it. I hate that people get it. I hate actually the surgeries, the

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chemo, the radiation, the side effects. But you know, what the

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people, the heroes, the nurses, the caregivers, the amazing

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people living with this, you know, ugly disease and keep on

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going, You know what, I've changed? I've changed and I know

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what matters now. And you know, I wrote a book about it, I have

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this podcast. But again, I've changed and we've all now

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committed to, you know, making the world a better place from

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your mission to my mission, as well. So I want to dig in a

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second because in looking and studying you a little bit, and

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I've dug deep on you, human potential. Okay, we all have it.

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Talk Talk to us about the human potential and all of us.

Mark Fournier: 00:12:45

Oh, I love that. Thank you, Howard. Thanks for

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teeing up one of my favorite topics. Excuse me, so. So my

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moniker is the limitless coach. And in my nonprofit is, is it's

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a 501 C three is limitless University. So you hear this

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word limitless. And I use that for a reason. It's I may have

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been thinking Grow Rich, it may have been when I was 12. I'm 67.

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So what is that 55 years ago? Is it

Howard Brown: 00:13:19

that's the last Okay, the mat your matches?

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Good. All

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right, so so the first time I ever heard the, the

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cliche, anything we can conceive and believe we can achieve,

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which has been assigned to so many different, they say that

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was how Henry Ford's said that it's that it actually goes back.

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millennia, it's been around, it's again, one of those

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cliches? Well, I did something that I don't know anyone who's

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ever done this before. Instead of just being inspired by the

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clever line, anything we can conceive and believe we can

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achieve. I actually asked myself, What if that's true? I

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mean, what if it's not just a platitude? What if it's actually

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true? And so I broke it down. Anything we can conceive? Let's

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start with that. Can you think of anything that the human mind

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is incapable of at least thinking of? If you ever watched

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a science fiction movie of your why that was we were talking

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about the matrix of yet. There's nothing we can't conceive. I

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mean, we can conceive of flat earth we can conceive of all the

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wonders of today the iPods and cell phones. There's nothing we

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can't conceive. So part one covered anything we can conceive

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part two, and believe. And why is belief such a big deal? I

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come to realize that we do what we believe. We don't do what's

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what's absolutely true. We don't always do what's right. We don't

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always do what other people want us to do. But we do. Do what's

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what we believe a perfect example would be um, For the

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folks who flew their planes into nine, into the buildings on 911,

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clearly, you can just reverse engineer it. They believed that

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what they were doing was the right thing to do. They believed

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that that Americans were these, the scourge of the planet, they

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believed that they were heroes, they believe that they're going

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to rescue the world by by eliminating this virus called

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Americans, right Western civilization, they believed it

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so strongly, that they not only killed all of these innocent

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folks, but they committed suicide, they gave up their

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life, because they believed it. If you believe that if you

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jumped off the highest building in the world, that you would

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float to the ground, and for being the first one to jump off

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that building, you would get the cure for cancer, world peace in

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a trillion dollars, if you believed it, and you'll be

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totally safe. I couldn't stop you from jumping off the world

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ties building, not because all those things are going to happen

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because they're not you're going to fall like a watermelon and

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splat in 20 different directions. And there'll be no

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trillion dollars or anything else. So it's not that we

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believe what is we only believe what we actually accept as being

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true. And the truth is, we can believe anything back to we can

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believe that the earth is flat, even though they've been out

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they've gone around it in spaceships, you know, so, so we

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can believe anything. Think of the crazy ludicrous things that

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people believe right now in our extremist, bifurcated political

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system and so on. So so now we back it up, okay, so we can

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conceive anything, apparently, we can believe anything. I

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thought. So that means that we actually can achieve anything

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because these things are true. And so I took that last one. Can

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we can anything we can conceive and believe. It doesn't say

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everything. We can conceive and believe it says anything. And

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there's a distinction there. Because if you pick something,

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and you put everything you've got into it, like in the movie,

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I use movies a lot, because they you know, they're so great at

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instantly telling a story in Apollo 13. You know, when it's

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when these this space, these guys were as good as dead. But

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the guy who was in charge said, Not on my watch, right? And he

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believed that they could find a solution. And so he focused

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hyperfocus, one guy comes up and says, Well, what about this one

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that goes wrong. And he goes, there's 300 things that could go

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wrong. Here, you're talking about 127, we need to figure out

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how to make this fit into that using nothing but these. And so

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let's focus on what's in front of us. So what I've realized

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over the years is anything. Not everything. Because everything

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if you believe, if you think of and believe a million things,

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and you're at nine years old, well, you might not make it for

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another 10 or 20 years, and you need 100 years to pull it off.

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So So what I tell people is, is make your list of if you were a

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limitless being, if there's nothing you couldn't do, make a

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list of all the things you do and then put them in order of

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priority. Because you might not ever get to 197, you might only

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get to the first three, well make sure those first three are

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something that you can live and die without regrets. And so this

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idea of the of this, of our potential, our potential is

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truly anything you can conceive and believe in once you can get

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to that point. There's just about nothing you can't do. And

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it's and they found the most successful people in the world

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and not that they're not, you know, better looking taller,

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smarter that they don't have, they didn't weren't born with

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with Infinite Wealth there. They average out to be. There's some

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that were attractive, someone somewhere had had a lot of money

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behind them. Some had nothing. There's no consistency, except

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for they came up with something they believed in it. And the

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third thing that is so critical, whether it's creating great

Mark Fournier: 00:19:10

relationships, or building a huge business, that one thing

Mark Fournier: 00:19:13

that all the most successful people have in common after

Mark Fournier: 00:19:16

there were studies on like, 1000s of people who were the top

Mark Fournier: 00:19:20

in their field, and they found there was one thing they all had

Mark Fournier: 00:19:24

in common. And it's something that anyone can have and it's

Mark Fournier: 00:19:27

perseverance. Once they believed it. They committed to it and

Mark Fournier: 00:19:31

they refused to give up. No matter what came along. They'd

Mark Fournier: 00:19:35

say, Okay, it's not a roadblock. It's a detour. I just need to

Mark Fournier: 00:19:38

find another way to get there. And they kept doing that until

Mark Fournier: 00:19:42

they figured out or created a solution. So not a short

Mark Fournier: 00:19:46

soundbite but an honest answer.

Howard Brown: 00:19:50

No, it's incredible. I so for those that

Howard Brown: 00:19:53

are listening or watching, you know what, you know, I always

Howard Brown: 00:19:55

look marks the smartest guy in the room today for sure because

Howard Brown: 00:19:58

I've got lots of other questions that go dig deep into quantum

Howard Brown: 00:20:02

consciousness and metacognition, but we don't have time for that.

Howard Brown: 00:20:04

But I am I do want you to do give me a short soundbite about

Howard Brown: 00:20:08

the difference between empowerment and enlightenment.

Mark Fournier: 00:20:11

All right, stated in a pithily empowerment in

Mark Fournier: 00:20:18

enlightenment, they each have their value. We hear

Mark Fournier: 00:20:21

empowerment. Almost everywhere we are teaching, we're

Mark Fournier: 00:20:24

empowering our children, empowering women empowering

Mark Fournier: 00:20:29

different cultures and so on. And what empowerment is, is it's

Mark Fournier: 00:20:33

the ability to influence the world around you. And what's

Mark Fournier: 00:20:37

wrong with that. Now, it doesn't say control the world around

Mark Fournier: 00:20:40

you, because we can't stop it from raining. Well, there's lots

Mark Fournier: 00:20:42

of things that we can't control. But we can influence the world

Mark Fournier: 00:20:46

around us. And the more empowered we become, the greater

Mark Fournier: 00:20:48

our influence becomes enlightenment, which is the one

Mark Fournier: 00:20:53

that I love the most of all, is the ability to influence the

Mark Fournier: 00:20:56

world within. And because we technically we live in the mind,

Mark Fournier: 00:21:02

that's 10 times more powerful, because you can actually control

Mark Fournier: 00:21:06

much of the world within, you can't control what's happening

Mark Fournier: 00:21:09

around me. But I can control this, I can control the lens,

Mark Fournier: 00:21:13

how I view it, how I respond to it, what I choose to do next, I

Mark Fournier: 00:21:17

have control over that. And, and that's enlightenment, the more

Mark Fournier: 00:21:22

powerful you are in regard to choosing what what stories you

Mark Fournier: 00:21:28

want you wish to write about yourself about the world around

Mark Fournier: 00:21:31

you a story is basically what do you think? What stories do you

Mark Fournier: 00:21:34

want to tell yourself? And what stories do you want to believe?

Mark Fournier: 00:21:38

That's really all reality is, it's just the stories you

Mark Fournier: 00:21:41

believe, that's your reality, there's not a reality. That

Mark Fournier: 00:21:45

reality, even if it exists, we can't see reality for what it

Mark Fournier: 00:21:49

truly is. Because in order to see, we have to put on a lens,

Mark Fournier: 00:21:53

just like in the old days, you'd have those cameras. And if you

Mark Fournier: 00:21:56

look through a camera without a lens, it was just blurry. So you

Mark Fournier: 00:21:59

put a lens on a zoom lens, a wide angle lens, whatever that

Mark Fournier: 00:22:04

lens was, that would decide it will not only help you see the

Mark Fournier: 00:22:08

world around you, but it will decide what that will look like

Mark Fournier: 00:22:11

a tiny spider and a wide angle lens looks like just nothing but

Mark Fournier: 00:22:14

a dot 20 feet away through a zoom lens, it says 10 foot tall,

Mark Fournier: 00:22:19

monstrous thing, two inches away, and you will respond not

Mark Fournier: 00:22:25

to the spider, which is really only this big and five feet

Mark Fournier: 00:22:27

away, you will respond to what it appears to be through your

Mark Fournier: 00:22:31

lens. So what could give us greater power than deciding the

Mark Fournier: 00:22:36

lens through which we see the world.

Mark Fournier: 00:22:39

I love it. And also a good friend of mine, Lauren belay,

Mark Fournier: 00:22:42

she

Howard Brown: 00:22:42

talks about written energy and thought

Howard Brown: 00:22:45

energy is part of enlightenment. But anyways, the show is so

Howard Brown: 00:22:49

short, we're going to have to move to put on your sunglasses

Howard Brown: 00:22:52

now because oh my goodness, spotlight we are going to shine

Howard Brown: 00:22:55

so brightly together. And again, this is a tease people are gonna

Howard Brown: 00:22:59

go find and dig deeper on you and, and seek you out. So tell

Howard Brown: 00:23:03

everyone how they can get a hold of you. You have apps, you have

Howard Brown: 00:23:06

books, you know you have programs, so tell people how

Howard Brown: 00:23:09

they should get a hold of you. And then let's let's go to the

Howard Brown: 00:23:12

show with some inspiration, share some inspiration with

Howard Brown: 00:23:14

after that.

Mark Fournier: 00:23:16

Okay, I'd love to thank you again, Howard. Thanks

Mark Fournier: 00:23:19

for having me on the show. And my, my primary website is the

Mark Fournier: 00:23:26

limitless coach.com. So that's easy, the limitless coach.com.

Mark Fournier: 00:23:31

And that's especially for those who are interested in in the

Mark Fournier: 00:23:34

possibility of coaching. I do one on one coaching is my

Mark Fournier: 00:23:38

primary contribution. My contribution to the world is

Mark Fournier: 00:23:43

through our our nonprofit, which we're building that site right

Mark Fournier: 00:23:47

now we just had finally got it registered the name limitless

Mark Fournier: 00:23:52

University registered and trademarked. We were waiting for

Mark Fournier: 00:23:56

that before and to get the 501 C three approved before we went

Mark Fournier: 00:24:00

really went into launch but so if you go there, there's a few

Mark Fournier: 00:24:02

things but please come back. Because we are launching all of

Mark Fournier: 00:24:09

my back catalogue is will all be for free. I've worked with some

Mark Fournier: 00:24:12

of the top personal development folks in the world. And we're

Mark Fournier: 00:24:16

getting all of their back catalogs and things that they

Mark Fournier: 00:24:18

don't really promote that much anymore. And getting them all to

Mark Fournier: 00:24:21

give it to the world for free. As many insights as we possibly

Mark Fournier: 00:24:25

can. And so the easy website for that is is limitless, the letter

Mark Fournier: 00:24:30

U limitless. you.org. And so those are two quick ways to find

Mark Fournier: 00:24:36

a little bit out. You can always email me directly. My my team

Mark Fournier: 00:24:41

won't, won't grab it and decide whether or not I can I get a

Mark Fournier: 00:24:47

chance to look at it if you send it to my direct email which is

Mark Fournier: 00:24:51

my name so it's mark at born yet inc.com And Fornia is f o u r

Mark Fournier: 00:24:59

and I er than letters I, NC. So market coordinating coordinate

Mark Fournier: 00:25:04

inc.com. And I'll answer one way or another, I won't be aI doing

Mark Fournier: 00:25:10

it. Although I do have some apps, and they're free. One, I

Mark Fournier: 00:25:16

recommend go to just go to your app store life balance test.

Mark Fournier: 00:25:21

That's how you get into it, it's free. It'll tell you where your

Mark Fournier: 00:25:24

life is in and out of balance 10 different areas. And it'll tell

Mark Fournier: 00:25:28

you how you run it out as a round wheel or a flat wheel. Are

Mark Fournier: 00:25:31

there areas that if you find that it's your score is low in

Mark Fournier: 00:25:35

some areas, that's where you want to focus. And then the

Mark Fournier: 00:25:38

other one is Omni coach, and it's all phonetically spelled.

Mark Fournier: 00:25:42

And Omni coach is the world's first AI driven, personal and

Mark Fournier: 00:25:47

career development coach. And that's, again, for the folks

Mark Fournier: 00:25:51

that they can't afford to coach with me directly. You can use

Mark Fournier: 00:25:54

Omni coach and it's incredibly powerful. When would you like me

Mark Fournier: 00:25:57

to segue into an inspiring close at this point,

Howard Brown: 00:26:00

let's give me some inspiration. Give it give it to

Howard Brown: 00:26:03

All right? All right. So

Mark Fournier: 00:26:04

let's go full circle. On something I said

Mark Fournier: 00:26:07

earlier about that week, when I thought I had ALS. The lesson

Mark Fournier: 00:26:12

was pretty simple. During that week, I came to terms with

Mark Fournier: 00:26:17

everything in my life, everything that mattered and

Mark Fournier: 00:26:19

everything that didn't, I discovered that very few things

Mark Fournier: 00:26:22

mattered. You know what car I was driving, it really came down

Mark Fournier: 00:26:26

to the relationships chips that I had developed. And had I

Mark Fournier: 00:26:33

earned my right to be here. Imagine we have to wait in line

Mark Fournier: 00:26:36

for a million years for a chance to come down to earth and

Mark Fournier: 00:26:38

there's an infinite number of souls waiting for this

Mark Fournier: 00:26:41

opportunity. And had I squandered that opportunity by

Mark Fournier: 00:26:46

watching 20 to 24 hours a day of television, had I made a

Mark Fournier: 00:26:49

difference in the world had I left any kind of a mark any

Mark Fournier: 00:26:54

legacy had I made a difference. And I had some things I was

Mark Fournier: 00:26:58

proud of and some regrets. But in the end, when they told me,

Mark Fournier: 00:27:02

We misdiagnosed and you're gonna be okay, you know, you're gonna

Mark Fournier: 00:27:06

have some issues and nasty side effects, but it's not going to

Mark Fournier: 00:27:10

kill you, you're gonna be okay. From that moment on. When we

Mark Fournier: 00:27:15

first started, I talked about appreciating life, about

Mark Fournier: 00:27:18

happiness and appreciation are just two sides of the same coin.

Mark Fournier: 00:27:22

And so you want to be happy, go into becoming a master of

Mark Fournier: 00:27:25

appreciation. Well, anything that happens to me no matter

Mark Fournier: 00:27:29

what it is, how unforeseen, how challenging, I always go to the

Mark Fournier: 00:27:33

same place. It's not ALS. It's not als can so see, we compare

Mark Fournier: 00:27:38

up. And that makes us feel terrible. We compare our lives

Mark Fournier: 00:27:41

to those who have more, we compare our health to those who

Mark Fournier: 00:27:44

have better, and so on, do the opposite compare down. There are

Mark Fournier: 00:27:48

a lot more people on this planet who are suffering than there are

Mark Fournier: 00:27:51

who've got it made. And so it's not that difficult. Once you get

Mark Fournier: 00:27:54

the hang of it to go, Holy cow, look at what I have compared to

Mark Fournier: 00:27:57

these, those people and this and this and that. And so don't let

Mark Fournier: 00:28:01

that something if you can carry that around. Without having to

Mark Fournier: 00:28:05

go through a week long diagnosis of ALS, just keep telling

Mark Fournier: 00:28:09

yourself. There's a show on I think it's either prime or

Mark Fournier: 00:28:12

Netflix called Gleason. And it's about a famous football player

Mark Fournier: 00:28:15

who ends up with ALS. And you see the whole progression of the

Mark Fournier: 00:28:18

disease. You you can't watch that show without walking away

Mark Fournier: 00:28:21

and saying this guy is making a difference in the world. If for

Mark Fournier: 00:28:24

no other reason, then he's showing us just how fortunate we

Mark Fournier: 00:28:27

are. Yeah,

Howard Brown: 00:28:29

so I love that Basler appreciation just a while

Howard Brown: 00:28:32

thank you for that. So this has been an amazing show, you're

Howard Brown: 00:28:36

gonna have to you know, reach out to mark, check out the apps.

Howard Brown: 00:28:39

I mean, this is powerful stuff that can really move you

Howard Brown: 00:28:42

forward. So you've been listening to the shining,

Howard Brown: 00:28:45

brightly show. I'm Howard Brown, and you can reach me at shining

Howard Brown: 00:28:48

brightly.com The books there, make bring me to your event.

Howard Brown: 00:28:52

I'll make it shine, this podcast as well as my advocacy which is

Howard Brown: 00:28:56

so dear to me and in cancer and mentorship and entrepreneurship

Howard Brown: 00:29:00

and interfaith relations. And just a quick shout out to the

Howard Brown: 00:29:03

people that make me look good. front edge publishing, read the

Howard Brown: 00:29:06

spirit magazine, amplify you my podcasting group, and also

Howard Brown: 00:29:11

diamond moments magazine. So this has been amazing and just

Howard Brown: 00:29:14

remember, all right, if we choose to shine brightly, just a

Howard Brown: 00:29:17

little bit each day for ourselves, take care of

Howard Brown: 00:29:19

yourselves. Okay, and then shine brightly and lift up others we

Howard Brown: 00:29:23

become a force multiplier for good and positive change. And we

Howard Brown: 00:29:26

do make the world a better place. Mark Fournier, all star

Howard Brown: 00:29:29

guests. Thank you. I just enjoyed our short time together

Howard Brown: 00:29:33

when we need to spend more time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Mark Fournier: 00:29:36

Wonderful and thank you