Episode 93

BETTER OR BITTER With Corinne Keith

Episode Summary – LIFE IS HARD BUT WE SHALL OVERCOME! In Episode 93 of the Shining Brightly Podcast Show (links in the comments), titled “BETTER OR BITTER” – please me Corinne Keith. She is a woman who faced sexual abuse from her father growing up as a little girl she carried with her decades and had to bear witness to the death of her 22-year-old son and his fiancée killed by a drunk driver. So much grief and pain she turned her life over to Jesus Christ and has been on a healing journey ever since. She teaches others via her coaching and book “Chosen For Victory” Come listen, download, share and review this powerful episode. Keep Shining Brightly!

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About the guest –  

Corinne Keith is first a Child of God in addition to being the only child of her parents. She raised 4 children, has 12 grandchildren and 7 great-grandchildren. She and her husband Gill will celebrate their 55th wedding anniversary in July of this year. Corinne began her journey of mind renewal as she sought healing from her own trauma of being sexually molestation by her dad. She realized she had believed lies about God, sex, men, guilt, condemnation, performance and her value. By learning her "Identity in Christ" brought Corinne emotional and spiritual healing which has been pivotal all her life. Forgiving herself and others has been a lifelong journey that has become crucial to obtaining victory and freedom. This was especially true when she was dealing with grief over the death of her 22-year-old son at the hands of a drunk driver.  Corinne's business "Chosen For Victory" summarizes the life she has In Christ.


About the Host:

Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Transcript
Howard Brown:

Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly

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Show. And we are going to shine really brightly because I have

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Corinne Keith in studio. How are you Corinne?

Corinne Keith:

I'm awesome. Thanks for asking.

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I know you're just off for vacation, so you're all

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energized and ready to go. So I want to share a little bit about

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current, just a short bio and things like that. So first of

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all, you identify yourself as a child of God, and you're an only

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child to your parents. But you've raised four children, you

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have 12 grandchildren, and seven great grandchildren, you got a

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beautiful family. And you and your husband, Gail, we're going

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to celebrate 56 years in July, I'm going to celebrate 30

Corinne Keith:

It's actually 55. Today, Oh, happy

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anniversary. I'm sorry, I read that wrong. I'm

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gonna be 30 July 24. So Oh, my God, it's really great. You you

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start your bio with family. I love that. So but your journey

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began, you know, really with some trauma, we're going to talk

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about that with, you know, some sexual molestation, and lies

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about God's sex men. All that and your value. And you're a

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deep woman of faith. And your emotional spiritual healing has

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been pivotal as far as how to get your life together, and

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others and it's beautiful. You're gonna talk to us about

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forgiveness. And that's really been part of your journey. It's

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really how you obtained your what you call victory and

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freedom. And it's really true when you're dealing with grief,

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and death of your 22 year old son, at the hands of a drunk

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driver. So you have a beautiful book called chosen for victory.

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We'll talk about that as well. And I can't wait to get started.

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But first, first, how do you shine brightly every day?

Corinne Keith:

You know, I am going to let your audience

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decide whether or not my answer is true. Because the way I shine

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brightly is by my smile. I have been told multiple times, what

Corinne Keith:

an awesome smile I have. So let your audience vote.

Howard Brown:

Well, for those that are listening, she has a

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beautiful smile. And so I would agree that you are shining

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brightly through your smile. And smiling is actually great

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because you lift people up when you smile at them. So it's right

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in line with the show. So it's really good. So let's first talk

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a little bit about some of the hard stuff about your background

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and growing up. And let's just share it share of what you want

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to share about the really the hardship that you've been

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through.

Corinne Keith:

Well, my dad molested me early on, I was

Corinne Keith:

about four, maybe five. And I was not even aware of it until

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and like I said, we're going back 55 years because this is my

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honeymoon tonight. I was not able to concentrate my marriage

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with my husband. And I didn't know why. I saw him naked after

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he took a shower just shaving and preparing for intimacy. And

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I ran out of the bathroom onto the bed and nothing but weep.

Corinne Keith:

And I had no clue why. I was literally in my 40s before with

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some counseling, I discovered that I had been molested. And I

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had buried it all those years.

Howard Brown:

Yeah, that's I mean, how do you know? And then

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you've carried that with you. And now then you had to now you

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finally discover it and have to process it. So I'm so sorry.

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You've been you've been working at it and you are working at it

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and you have a beautiful marriage. So hopefully that

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that's you got a good man there. Gil. He's a good man he stuck

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with I

Corinne Keith:

definitely do. I mean, what brand new husband

Corinne Keith:

waits for three days for his wife to be able to consummate

Corinne Keith:

their marriage. I have a very special man. Very

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graceful and very patient and all that. And then

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the heartbreak with your son, please share.

Corinne Keith:

Paul was on his way home from Bible College. He

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was engaged to his fiancee who is filling out their wedding

Corinne Keith:

invitations in the car, when they were hit head on by a drunk

Corinne Keith:

driver going the wrong way down. I 90. All three of them were

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killed. Paul was resuscitated at the scene as a result of it.

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Paul was always about life. And whether that meant salvation,

Corinne Keith:

whether that meant being a lifeguard and saving people

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there, whether that meant organizing blood drives, he did

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it all. And so part of his goal was always to be an organ donor.

Corinne Keith:

And we got to meet his heart recipient, who is a mother of

Corinne Keith:

five children. Her baby was five years old at the time. This has

Corinne Keith:

been 24 years ago and we have a relationship with them?

Howard Brown:

Well, first of all, what was the fiance's name?

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Amy? Amy, so I just want to just take a second and just may their

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memories and I know you honor them. But may their memories be

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only for a blessing for all I knew and loved them, because so

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young, I have a 22 year old daughter, I couldn't even

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imagine losing heart right now. And to lose both of them and

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donate his organs and, and make his life you know, for good and

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all that. So this is something that I don't think it never,

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ever heals. But do you ever talk to Paul and Amy? A little bit?

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You know, see what's going on up there? No,

Corinne Keith:

I know, we'll have an interesting conversation

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when we are reunited, I will tell you that.

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It's a beautiful thing, organ donation, and it's

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just a human sacrifice. And, and that is shining brightly in its

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core. So it's unbelievable. And then you also had your own

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battles with kidney cancer. Correct?

Corinne Keith:

I did. I was diagnosed with kidney cancer in

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December of 19. March, while we went on a six week long trip,

Corinne Keith:

and the doctor told me that I should be able to go ahead and

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go when I did. Guess when we had COVID.

Howard Brown:

That's right. And how are you doing? How are you

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doing now?

Corinne Keith:

i It was a miracle. Literally. I had, it's

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totally and completely self contained. I needed no

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chemotherapy, and I needed no radiation. And so God literally

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worked a miracle. And I didn't have it taken out until May of

Corinne Keith:

2021. Oh, 2020 Excuse me, it's been four years.

Howard Brown:

Wow, that's awesome. That's absolutely

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incredible.

Corinne Keith:

I'm telling you the love that you have and the

Corinne Keith:

support that you have from people. Okay, my daughter took

Corinne Keith:

pictures for our 50th wedding anniversary, we had a family

Corinne Keith:

cruise with 27 of us. Nobody could visit me during COVID.

Corinne Keith:

Right. So she had a blanket made with all of the pictures of

Corinne Keith:

everyone that I could take with me in the hospital. So I had a

Corinne Keith:

home of them are

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like a quilt as of like a quilt or something. No,

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it was

Corinne Keith:

it was a blanket with nothing but pictures on it.

Corinne Keith:

She does all that kind of creative stuff. Oh, okay,

Corinne Keith:

talking about a shiny. I mean, I could hold and cherish that. It

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was like holding them as well.

Howard Brown:

Yeah, wrap yourself up in that blanket.

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Beautiful. That's all. Oh, that's really, really nice. Now,

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I wanted to go through three types of things. And first, I

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want to talk about grief. I know that you have some expertise and

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training there. So tell me how you grieve and how you help

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others. Well,

Corinne Keith:

the primary thing about grief is that everybody

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grieves differently. And when they taught that grief was

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linear, they like to you. Grief is not linear I, I actually

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created a what I call a figure eight. And it actually shows how

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people it's it's in my book as well. It shows how people go

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through grief. And it's constant motion. I am looking for that

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put up so York people

Howard Brown:

see that? Yeah, well, we'll go by the book, and

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they'll see it. But it's for those that are listening, I just

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showed the figure a diagram in the book,

Corinne Keith:

right. And it shows that we go from the

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recovery side. Okay, and what that looks like, both externally

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and internally. And we can see the progress that we make from

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the struggles inside as well as what people see outside. And you

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know that you're making progress. Because you can see

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how much time you actually spent in recovery. But the key part is

Corinne Keith:

allow people to grieve in their own way. Because everybody has

Corinne Keith:

different triggers. Everybody has different timeframes. And so

Corinne Keith:

it's okay to grieve in your own way.

Howard Brown:

And you can grieve for lots of reasons to this

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doesn't just have to be you know, someone passing there's

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there's lots of things to grieve about. Process and things like

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that. So it's natural to be able to do that. For

Corinne Keith:

Nobody can do it. Yeah,

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they associate it sometimes only with death and

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that's just not the case. There's grief and sadness that

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you can take with you in many forms and things like that it's

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a natural thing. And to go through that, as well, and

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sometimes it stays with you a long time. You know, I still

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grieve and memorialize my great grandparents and grandparents as

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well. And I tried to think of the good things, right? You try

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to think of the special times, learnings and things like that

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as well. Take us through the next step.

Corinne Keith:

Oh, breathing can also be okay. Just memories and

Corinne Keith:

sharing them with somebody else. Exactly. Healing.

Howard Brown:

It can be I agree. Take me through forgiveness.

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Wise, oh, oh,

Corinne Keith:

my, okay. Forgiveness I learned isn't just

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from the head. Forgiveness has to be from our heart. And by

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that I mean is we have to address the emotional side of

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forgiveness. Okay? When I was dealing with the trauma of my

Corinne Keith:

dad's molestation, okay. I've tried to rationalize his

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behavior, because I knew my mother did not meet his needs.

Corinne Keith:

And that was very evident a couple of days before my wedding

Corinne Keith:

when she was telling me about sex. But if I rationalized his

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behavior, I didn't deal with the hard for fact, okay, of the pain

Corinne Keith:

that I endured, because of his choices. And it messed up my

Corinne Keith:

head. And as you mentioned, in my bio, okay, it messed it up

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about man, it messed it up about sex, it messed it up about God

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about myself, because I saw no value in that. Also, I had a lot

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of negativity and criticism in my household, and so worth in

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value. I didn't know what they were. So I had to forgive the

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fact that the demeaning, that came externally, I took

Corinne Keith:

internally, and I believe those lies about myself. So who did I

Corinne Keith:

have to forgive, I had to forgive God, I had to forgive

Corinne Keith:

myself, I had to forgive various people. And those are all

Corinne Keith:

necessary. But I'll tell you something else about

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forgiveness. It's like an onion, what I tell people is that the

Corinne Keith:

forgiveness has to be as deep as the wound. So if a wound only

Corinne Keith:

occurred once, it doesn't take a whole bunch to forgive that. But

Corinne Keith:

when you constantly have it wrapped around over years, and

Corinne Keith:

repeated incidences all the time, that has to be unraveled,

Corinne Keith:

in a similar way, that it was wrapped up.

Howard Brown:

I love that, thank you for sharing forgiveness was

Howard Brown:

such an important walk that we need to take, for many reasons.

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individually and in group. I agree. So and you've been

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through a lot, so you're doing that. So basically, something

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that's been bonding for you has been your faith. So tell me how

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you rekindle your faith you forgive God and, you know, now

Howard Brown:

your your your faith is what kind of leads you are correct?

Corinne Keith:

Well, for me, my faith is relationship. And by

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that, I mean, God's just not somebody way out there. I have a

Corinne Keith:

personal relationship with him. And I am able to write, hear

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from him interact. It's a full fledged honest relationship, the

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same like I can have with my husband, that communication is

Corinne Keith:

very, very important. And yes, I do journal. And that's one of

Corinne Keith:

the ways in which I not only share my heart with him, but I

Corinne Keith:

hear what he shares with me. And what he tells and reveals to me.

Howard Brown:

I want to share with you that, you know, I since

Howard Brown:

I had 1989 and 9091, there was no internet or cell phones or

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computer use of for the most part, that when I got stage

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three, the metastatic stage four in 2016 and 17. And 18. I will

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tell you that prayer, people prayed from all religions, and I

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felt it and I think that was part of you know, I face very

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long art odds. And I think it helps and I have to tell you

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that there is a greater power than us out there. And so I

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don't care what religion they weren't, but they were praying

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and, and that energy was felt. And I do attribute that part of

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my healing. It's hard to explain how the hell I'm here right now.

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So otherwise, but I think it was a part of it, and I'm grateful

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for that. It was really, it did. So I think that was quite

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important as well. Now, we're gonna call this episode better

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or better. How come Why do you think we should title it the

Howard Brown:

episode? Better or better? Right. That was very interesting

Howard Brown:

in our greenroom conquer decision in our prayer talks.

Corinne Keith:

Well, I think we have a choice. We can't control

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what happens in our lives. But we have a choice as to what our

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response is going to be. And so it can make me a better person,

Corinne Keith:

I can grow, I can learn, I can change, I can forgive, those

Corinne Keith:

things might be better. Or I can hold on to resentment, and

Corinne Keith:

anger, and bitterness, and hatred, those things make me

Corinne Keith:

bitter. And so we don't like the word, responsibility. A lot of

Corinne Keith:

people shy away from that. But the life that I'm living right

Corinne Keith:

now, I live by the choices that I make. And so that's the better

Corinne Keith:

or better, I get to choose.

Howard Brown:

I love it. I love it. It's incredible. So also, I

Howard Brown:

want to hear a little bit about what went into your book. Okay.

Howard Brown:

Beyond a broken heart. It's available on Amazon. And what

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were you What were you thinking? Is this it? Was this your first

Howard Brown:

book? It is that you've written? Okay, so I was always interested

Howard Brown:

from the author, what you decided to take what you have

Howard Brown:

inside you and put it words on paper. And, you know, I have a

Howard Brown:

friend that talks about, you know, the the word energy, the

Howard Brown:

spoken word, energy, but the written energy in their pages.

Howard Brown:

So tell me about your book process and what that's meant

Howard Brown:

for you.

Corinne Keith:

Well, I may be very unique in this, as I told

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you, I do journal. My book was a compilation of 18 different

Corinne Keith:

journals that I drew from, you see, our memory can play tricks

Corinne Keith:

on us. But when it's actually written down, you know, where

Corinne Keith:

you were at at the time. And so I drew my memories from what I

Corinne Keith:

had written in my journals. And I knew I needed to share the

Corinne Keith:

story. I shared the story of the molestation, I showed the story

Corinne Keith:

of Paul's death. And I shared how my forgiveness in the grief

Corinne Keith:

and how I overcame those things. You see, there's a reason that

Corinne Keith:

my business is called chosen for victory, because I am

Corinne Keith:

victorious. And that's why I wrote the book was to share that

Corinne Keith:

it's not just for me, it's for other people as well. And I'm a

Corinne Keith:

coach. So guess what I do? I ask questions. And my book also has

Corinne Keith:

questions on it. Because it isn't about me, it's about your

Corinne Keith:

journey. And it's about how people are going to process

Corinne Keith:

their own unique experiences. So I asked questions to help them

Corinne Keith:

in that process journey.

Howard Brown:

I love it because we are victorious and others can

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be too. So absolutely incredible. So I have to tell

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you that we have a short show. So I'm going to ask you to do

Howard Brown:

something. Put on your sunglasses right now. Ready to

Howard Brown:

go. Ready? You got some good ones? Oh, yeah, you're coming

Howard Brown:

off vacation. So we are now shining brightly, our light is

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shining off of each other and into the world. For everyone to

Howard Brown:

feel the kindness, please tell everyone how they can get a hold

Howard Brown:

of you. And then share some inspiration with me. So we can

Howard Brown:

close up the show.

Corinne Keith:

Hey, first of all, they can reach me at my

Corinne Keith:

first name is c o r i n n e out chosen for victory.com. And the

Corinne Keith:

inspiration I would like to leave with people is the

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responsibility choice that you have to live the life. We don't

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blame. We take ownership for what we want to see and have

Corinne Keith:

happen. So my hope and prayer is for everyone to have the victory

Corinne Keith:

that they desire in whatever area they want.

Howard Brown:

We'll give you a huge amen on that. So thank you

Howard Brown:

for that. Also, I want to make sure that it I will certainly

Howard Brown:

put in the show notes. But your website is chosen for

Howard Brown:

victory.com. And so people can reach you there and find you on

Howard Brown:

Amazon as well and on LinkedIn. So we'll make sure that they can

Howard Brown:

find you as well. So you've been listening or watching the

Howard Brown:

shining brightly show, you can reach me Howard Brown at shining

Howard Brown:

brightly.com. And there you'll absolutely be able to find out

Howard Brown:

about my book, my memoir and the other books that I've written

Howard Brown:

and been involved with some collaboratives and the speaking

Howard Brown:

I'd be glad to come and speak at your event or fundraiser and

Howard Brown:

motivate, educate and inspire. And then lastly that my advocacy

Howard Brown:

is so important. So I work very strongly in the cancer world.

Howard Brown:

Don't go get cancer go get screened, and if you do let me

Howard Brown:

know and we can help walk with you along that path and into

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survivorship hopefully, and then also my interfaith relations at

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my mentorship and entrepreneurship. So my advocacy

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means a great deal to me as well. And this podcast is just

Howard Brown:

blowing up right now. Lots of people listening and looking for

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that inspiration. And Corinne, you added great value today, a

Howard Brown:

great victory. So thank you for being here, as well. It's been a

Howard Brown:

great show. Lastly, I just want to thank some of the people that

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have gotten me here. So my book publisher is front edge

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publishing. And we are having a beautiful spiritual newsletter

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that goes out every Monday to lots of people called read the

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spirit.com. And my podcast finishing house is the amplify

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you network. They make me look great every single week. And

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then also a sponsor, the diamond beauties magazine is I was on

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the cover of may and it's just a beautiful piece that comes out

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as part of this show as well. So again, Karina, back from

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vacation, all charged up. Thank you for being here. Wonderful

Howard Brown:

show. And we'll see you soon. Thank

Corinne Keith:

Thanks, our loved our time.

Howard Brown:

Me too. Thank you.